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on a training course, tried to train in my hotel room last night, was a bit of a chore really as to feel anything i had to hammer the body weight exercises!! I did bring a couple of bands along so this helped at least.
Diet has been somewhat off course for yesterday lunch onwards and this morning however should be back on track this evening with dinner
Roll on thrusday back in the gym.
On a side note after a nightmare week last week with builders, i get to return home to a freshly plastered ground floor
excited because i havent been able to just paint a wall when decorating before due to decades of poor decorating and general DIY abuse of our poor house.
Diet has been somewhat off course for yesterday lunch onwards and this morning however should be back on track this evening with dinner
Roll on thrusday back in the gym.
On a side note after a nightmare week last week with builders, i get to return home to a freshly plastered ground floor
excited because i havent been able to just paint a wall when decorating before due to decades of poor decorating and general DIY abuse of our poor house.
Eh...didn't you kind of mention what your morning "ritual" was in the supplement thread...
How do you stretch you legs during it?
I lie on my back, put one leg on to the other knee, and pull the leg over to stretch the glute and hip effectively. Try it after you've got some glute doms
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So for gods sake Mr.Bunny don't EVER touch drugs
Fortunately, I was educated to a reasonable standard so that goes without saying. When something is legally classified as a Class C controlled drug (and you can justify with 'personal use in a medicinal form' till the cows come home, doesn't change the fact its a controlled substance) - I know to stay well clear. Unfortunately, that message does not appear to have disseminated properly amongst the true Harley riders.
Like pot users who 'like, i need it man, it clears me head so i can function properly guy, its like, totally safe'
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Excuse me? Let people make up their own mind about drugs that fall under the misuse of drugs act? We are not talking about Omega 3 oils here. We are talking about a legal framework that classifies certain chemical compounds as dangerous.
I do not care how engrained in your culture it is, i do not care how acceptable you think it is, i do not care if you are a tree hugging hippie taking shrooms fighting the facist corporate regime, a controlled substance is a controlled substance. If you are taking a controlled substance without medical grounds to do so, then that is an idiotic decision.
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Hey guys i saw something on the news that said STEROIDS KILL INSTANTLY AND MAKE YOU SUICIDAL AND MAKE YOU MURDER therefore you must not touch them ever.
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Satire aside, you are indoctrinated into a belief system that is outside the realm of scientific understanding and method. Lets draw from the wiki
In other words, your use and justification are peer driven and not scientifically based.
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lets not feed this troll anymore m8, it hurts me too but its not a battle we can win by fighting with logic and reason. ** No need for that kind of abusive talk *** <<< go talk to BKB he is winding everyone up
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Who exactly is using 'logic and reason' here? As far as I can see, not one single person here has refuted my claims other than 'Go away' and 'You don't understand'. Go on, get out your science, get out your logic and reason. I am waiting.
The indoctrinated do not exist on a plane of logic and reason, and when called to justify their claims resort to rhetoric and insults because they lack the empirical data to justify their beliefs.
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And instantly your whole argument is invalid. If you knew anything about constructing an argument you would know you cannot base it on wiki.
GG mate.
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In a sense i agree. Wiki is a poor source, but it is quick and dirty. [95] references a austrialian medical journal, you are welcome to go check it out.But yet again another post that construes a rhetorical insult because there is no way to refute my words because I am right.
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You can see from the above post that BKB has no interest in debating the topic only muddying the waters the way religious people do when defending their belief systems. Oh sure he can claim the opposite but in reality he is deflecting other points of view without consideration in order to better justify his own smug sensibilities.
Wouldnt matter if we put a professor of human biology, specializing in endocrinology within sport, making a presentation about the dangers of steroids being overblown and largely innaccurate, he would just tell us that we are indoctrinated or being selective over our sources and cherry picking those that suit our argument. Arguments such as this are un-winnable as the other party is only looking to debunk the logic of the other, and since we are arguing a point, much like religion or philosophy, with little empirical evidence then whats the point in arguing it?
BKB gets his jollies by using language and logic to politely attack others and draw rage, ive done it myself many times when i was younger, attacking things to justify myself as 'intellectual' or sometimes just to exert my will over another person or group. Its all part of growing up, whether you are 15 or 50 you can still behave like a chil;d and answer every question with 'because' until the other party winds themselves up into a rage. Its not big and its not clever, but i am.
Wouldnt matter if we put a professor of human biology, specializing in endocrinology within sport, making a presentation about the dangers of steroids being overblown and largely innaccurate, he would just tell us that we are indoctrinated or being selective over our sources and cherry picking those that suit our argument. Arguments such as this are un-winnable as the other party is only looking to debunk the logic of the other, and since we are arguing a point, much like religion or philosophy, with little empirical evidence then whats the point in arguing it?
BKB gets his jollies by using language and logic to politely attack others and draw rage, ive done it myself many times when i was younger, attacking things to justify myself as 'intellectual' or sometimes just to exert my will over another person or group. Its all part of growing up, whether you are 15 or 50 you can still behave like a chil;d and answer every question with 'because' until the other party winds themselves up into a rage. Its not big and its not clever, but i am.
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Steedie, Morba and UE were perfectly content to have a not-so-subtle discussion about 'cycling' just two pages back. The lasting impression to a drop in user is.
'Oh k, so we are not allowed to talk about these things here, but i guess they are ok cause these guys are so chilled about them lol'.
I am merely responding to what was already here. Drugs are bad, m'kaaaaaaaay
Really no one should be discussing it, and I think it's gone a bit too far. One of the reasons it's not discussed on here.
Firstly, and this is mainly just to clarify my stand point. It is not "ingrained" in my culture by any means, it is also not necessarily seen as acceptable but but as a decision some people make. I personally am against them for various reasons but primarily I enjoy working for my end product and I'm not really interested in short cuts or boosting myself beyond my natural limit. However if someone is wanting to take steroids or other drugs for their own personal gain and it has no impact on others then I don't really care, it doesn't affect me. Instances such as in competitive sports classify as having an impact on others.
With out a doubt there are health risks concerned and yes there will be idiots who just assume that they will suffer no consequences. However I would like to think that the users on this forum that have been talking about such drugs have a little more common sense than just to shove it wherever and mess around with substances that they are at least slightly educated on.
I will give you one thing. Your point on the fact that people who are looking to take these drugs are mainly educated by people already taking them. That is valid and it is also true that they will have a biased view, but if we are trying to be scientific then you shouldn't be biased in anyway which includes acting as you are in this thread.
Anyway, my real point is that you are literally just trying to get a rise out of us which you appear to have succeeded in doing. Well done.
You have a history of making a nuisance of yourself in the past so apart from anything else we don't really care about what you have to say, and again it is not your place to decide who is suitably educated and to what degree that is.
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Apologies, had to get that out of my system
.Anyway back on topic.
Comp is Sunday and weight is still going down, I'm about 74.7kg ish. This is good because it means I might not need to dehydrate at all
.The end of my routine got a little heavy last week so I have decided to effectively take this week off after some light, comp style stuff on Monday.
I'm getting a little excited now
.Well done
I for one don't take anything of the like, so please stop tarnishing everyone in this thread with the same brush, as there are only a handful (if that) of users that I am aware of that train with these methods.
Now please, stop bringing the damn subject up as I don't really want this thread locked due to people talking about Steroids, it's not allowed on the forums.
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