25 years in jail for Hacking?

[King Damager]

That is the maximum sentence the crimes he commited carry. As he hasn't been convicted yet we have no idea what actual sentence he will get.

+1

If it's a first offence he'll get some leniency, also, this doesn't really surprise me. It's all about huge amounts of theft and fraud...

I like how a few months ago when everyone's details were being stolen everyone was up in arms about it... Now they hear he might actually be punished, and.... they're up in arms about it...

kd

 

[Robbo]

That is the maximum sentence the crimes he commited carry. As he hasn't been convicted yet we have no idea what actual sentence he will get.

I just came in here to say this.

 

[Marky]

Maximum of 25 years.

This. It's a maximum sentence. The actual sentence hasn't been given yet.

 

[jeff6475]

prolly get a slap on the wrists and a £60 fine

 

[Unicorn]

Here was me hoping for death sentence. He mocked the Anon community and they turned on him. Deserves all he gets!

P.S For those who don't know he was one who kept hitting sony's servers and had 10's of thousands of botnets to control

 

[fez]

Seems very harsh...although what i cant understand about hackers...they are clever enough to break into websites,steal money etc...but not good enough to cover their tracks and get caught?

Basically, the vast majority of hackers are not actually hackers at all, they are script kiddies. They use others work to attack their targets.

Think of it like the military commanders that fire the rockets vs the scientists that build them.

The second issue is that like most things, there is a progression curve. When you begin to hack you may target irrelevant targets and do it on a small scale. At some point you will get better / more confident and begin hitting targets that do take note of attacks. If you are silly enough to get caught at this stage then you may become known to police and if there are other attacks that bare your signiture they may come for you as a matter of course.

There are very very few top draw hackers in the media for getting caught. The best ones won't get caught very often. Pretty much all of the people they have arrested for this type of things are not very good programmers / network analysts.

Garry McKinnon basically exploited horrendous holes in the US governments network security. I don't think it matters how easy the hacking was, simply what you did.

 

[dowie]

He was a bit naive to have done what he did but I don't really agree with the idea that he should be extradited to the USA when the crimes were carried out from the UK and also involve UK targets.

While the current extradition treaty came about as a result of the UK (due to a farcical situation where in some instances convicted IRA terrorists were free to stay in the USA) we ought to look at adding a clause such that if the offence concerned occurred when the suspect was in the UK then the UK should prosecute and not extradite.

 

[Rroff]

I don't know the extent he was involved in it, but some of the stuff he was involved with included wholesale theft and publishing of personal details, interferring with FBI operations which included putting lives in danger, DOS attacks on many institutions to varying degrees with some having to potential to seriously hurt some businesses. Can't say I will shed any tears if he gets 25 years just sucks that theres a lot of people who deserve 25 years but only get little more than a slap on the wrist.

 

[arknor]

serves him right

 

[silversurfer]

That is the maximum sentence the crimes he commited carry. As he hasn't been convicted yet we have no idea what actual sentence he will get.

Its very likely he will get a multi decade sentence just due to the nature and notoriety of the crime.

Much like the looters in the riot, they wont do leniency because its too possible for a repeat.
The opposite scenario is where someone demonstrates rehabilitation, reduced threat and remorse but this case its a bleeding wound the US seems to act very protectively in such matters.

Its comparable in severity maybe to events in Iran and how al Qaeda transmits info, if you want to push USA buttons and irritate the highest ranks I imagine this is how you'd do it most easily. Its the most subversive actively ongoing engagement between axis and nato powers.
The cross over point in these two realms would be Bradley Manning I guess. Personally I'd expect no leniency given, maybe later in appeal but at sentence nope

 

[Gav_881]

Its very likely he will get a multi decade sentence just due to the nature and notoriety of the crime.

Much like the looters in the riot, they wont do leniency because its too possible for a repeat.
The opposite scenario is where someone demonstrates rehabilitation, reduced threat and remorse but this case its a bleeding wound the US seems to act very protectively in such matters.

Its comparable in severity maybe to events in Iran and how al Qaeda transmits info, if you want to push USA buttons and irritate the highest ranks I imagine this is how you'd do it most easily. Its the most subversive actively ongoing engagement between axis and nato powers.
The cross over point in these two realms would be Bradley Manning I guess. Personally I'd expect no leniency given, maybe later in appeal but at sentence nope

Have to agree the guy is boned, tbh i'm not sure morally he did much more than a kid with a spray can but he's still going to get max as the media will pummel the DA for a light sentence following extradition

 

[MrMoonX]

you'd get less for murder, if he gets that sentence in the first place


also he should have just played uplink

 

[yhack]

Turns out he got 26 years.

 

[JonJ678]

I was going to ask how anyone managed to catch him, but it appears he turned on anon and consequently got screwed by his old friends.

I feel there should be a defense along the lines of "What? I've never heard of anon, what's a botnet?". If he's been found from the ip/address lookup posted online, then what proof is there that Anon have pointed the finger at the right person?

 

[StriderX]

The fact that he got caught, is bad enough.

This is his punishment for slipping up .

 

[Unicorn]

I was going to ask how anyone managed to catch him, but it appears he turned on anon and consequently got screwed by his old friends.

I feel there should be a defense along the lines of "What? I've never heard of anon, what's a botnet?". If he's been found from the ip/address lookup posted online, then what proof is there that Anon have pointed the finger at the right person?

Anon knew as he did his attacks without the proper hiding a lot of the times and even went and posted a clip of attacking sony which clearly showed his details. Anon turned and used his name and other bits to find he lived in essex.

Like so.

Easy to catch. No denying he did it

 

[JonJ678]

I'm not convinced anyone would go to the hassle of attacks like these without covering his tracks. Especially considering the tag line "anon", the guy must be aware that anonymity online takes considerable effort.

If the guy had compromised a machine at 33 Royal Oak, Essex- he could route anything he felt like through there. Even if he lived nowhere near Essex and wasn't called Ryan.

If I posted a video of criminal activity which included the name "Fred" and address "NE London" would you take it for granted that I was definitely called Fred and lived in London?