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***AMD Radeon HD7970 GHZ Edition - Official Reviews Thread***

Oh ye it does.

Running multi monitors doesn't entitle you to writing your inadequate imho

and there is no such thing like "the same" between these cards. One card is quicker in higher resolutions, other in lower. One quicker in one game, other in another. One has 1.5 times the memory of another, sometimes it helps.

So there's no such thing like "the same" unless you are testing only in BF3, which is stupid.


Do you actually run multi monitors or have tested it over a number of cards / games?

Heres a quick clue, I have.
 
Not according to everyone though.

No hotlinking!

This 7970GE is nothing more than an excuse for AMD to sell 7970's at the same price as 680's, the performance overall is so near anyone telling you one card is much better than the other is lying or stupid.

That table makes no sense. And you are not allowed here to hotlink images from other sites.
That Canadian website is a joke. It gives correct numbers for 680, but 20% lower fps for Radeon. So who is actually stupid? Read some other website.

Techpowerup gives the most extensive review.

What is really stupid is looking at an average FPS across the board. Say imagine if Nvidia is twice faster (with 400fps) in one old game like CoD4 than AMD, and then slower by 10% in every other game. That doesn't make them equal.

Also above I printed the numbers for 5760x1080 where Radeon is miles ahead. On average 20% and Nvidia failed to run 3 titles, while Radeon didn't. Who is stupid now?

I am not saying 680 is not good enough to run 1920x1080, in fact almost any card is.
 
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Well the one good thing about the Ghz edition is anyone who is interested in overclocking knows that if they buy a Ghz edition card it will have been speed binned by AMD so they know these cards will go higher then the normal edition cards from here on out.

They don't look any different from standard 7970 apart from voltage bump, look at the Anandtech review:

Radeon HD 7970 Series Voltages
Ref 7970GE Base Voltage 1.162v
Ref 7970GE Boost Voltage 1.218
Ref 7970 Base Voltage 1.175v

My 7970 standard edition has a core voltage of about 1070mV or 1120mV (I can't remember which) and does 1100mhz stable on it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if 99% of people are able to flash their 7970 standard edition to a 7970GE without problems, it will just be hotter/louder like the 7970GE itself.

It looks to me like the only differences are going to be in the bios/drivers.
 
Do you actually run multi monitors or have tested it over a number of cards / games?

Heres a quick clue, I have.

OMG throw more idiotic arguments at me! Having a baby doesn't make you a good mother.

I just printed the numbers for 3 monitor configuration from Techpowerup. I bet the guy who wrote that article has multi monitors and he knows how to use them unlike some.

I actually know that overclocking both cards to the full makes them more or less equal. But that is not OK for everyone. Most decisions are made on stock speeds comparisons.

Yet Ghz edition still comfortably beats 680 in 3 monitor on Techpowerup.
 
Well 2 gig not good for high spec systems. Unless you've got tiny tables with 21" monitors on them. See how Ghz edition beats 680 in 2560 on average by over 10% closer to 15% on techpowerup if u exclude old title like call of duty and battlefiled 2 and 3dmark (who needs it?).

Other reviews are not worth looking at as 4-6 games are not enough for comparison

The lead extends to 20-30-40% in multi-monitor configuration.

I really pity those who invested in 680 in hope they'd have a "fastest graphics card" that is only quick in 1280x800

40%? What are you smoking? Care to back up these claims with proof?
 
40%? What are you smoking? Care to back up these claims with proof?

When I calculated the real percentage points it came out that 40% was an overestimation. 32% at most. You wanna disagree with that?

How much quicker is Ghz Edition in 3 monitor configuration over 680 according to Techpowerup (in alphabetical order):

Alan Wake 32%
AvP 32%
Arkham City 15%
BF3 11%
Battleforge 24.5%
CoD4 minus 20% (that old quake 3 engine game)
Civilisation V Nvidia failed to run
Crisis 13%
Crisis2 7%
Dirt 3 Nvidia failed to run
Dragon Age2 0%
Hard Reset Nvidia failed to run
Metro 2033 21%
Stalker Pripyat 11%
Shogun 2 minus 10%
Skyrim 15%
World of Warcraft (you must be kidding me)
 
Yes I want to disagree. Please link me to a review and not just figures. Dirt 3 has always ran well on Nvidia cards so when it says "failed to run" it rings alarm bells for me.
 
Here we go in the next round of mines bigger than yours!:(

As it now stands, neither are faster out the box with the new Ghz edition.

It's neck and neck in the real world for the real folks@1080p.

Deal clincher for me now would be PhysX or when you go above 1080p when memory starts to become an issue when you add in maximum IQ via respected control panels.


Current 7970's are all going to do what a Ghz version can with a simple push of the sliders in CCC or Afterburner for probably considerably less cash though.

Unless you can get one considerably cheaper than the other pick what one you like.



I wouldn't be at all surprised if 99% of people are able to flash their 7970 standard edition to a 7970GE without problems, it will just be hotter/louder like the 7970GE itself.

It looks to me like the only differences are going to be in the bios/drivers.

Tomshardware tried it and it didn't work:

'Clearly, something's not right. Just look at the memory capacity. Then there's the GPU clock rate and missing support for OpenCL/DirectCompute. In the end, we’re forced to concede that upgrading an old board to the new BIOS just isn't as easy as it was in the past.'

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232-5.html

Early days though, who knows.
 
That review says Dirt 3 has 16 FPS more than the 7970GE at 1920x1080. How is that failed to run? it only failed at 5760x1080 but that's just a problem specific to them, the 690 worked ok.

EDIT: Bf3 on thew 7970GE only has 1% of an advantage. Where did you get the other 10% out of? You're either a troll, fanboy or just a ham sandwhich.
 
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That review says Dirt 3 has 16 FPS more than the 7970GE at 1920x1080. How is that failed to run?

EDIT: Bf3 on thew 7970GE only has 1% of an advantage. Where did you get the other 10% out of? You're either a troll, fanboy or just a ham sandwhich.

If you read carefully before you write back, I was speaking about multi monitor configuration only with resolution of 5760x1080

Careful. - w3bbo
 
If you read carefully before you write back, I was speaking about multi monitor configuration only with resolution of 5760x1080

Because that's clearly the most used configuration. 1080p will always be the baseline at present with anything else appended to it. (except for people with other set-ups of course).

And that's also ignoring the fact that your point is still wrong. I checked the other review sites and they all pretty much have them trading blows. I would say techpowerup are an anomaly in this case although can't be discounted.

I'm not treating their review on its own as gospel and clutching to my own exaggerated numbers like you though.

You're either a troll, fanboy or just a ham sandwhich.

I checked his profile page earlier and the last 3 of the last visitors were moderators so he's probably been suspended or given infractions before. I think I'm just going to ignore him. No matter how much anyone disproves him he's going to post the same stuff.
 
Its more then just a factory overclock imo, you cant seem to flash the older versions to this 'new' card. There is also better idle power usage on these compared to the older version, can that be done with just software/bios changes?

Lots of people arguing about performance for/against this card, which usally happans when the cards are pritty even. This is good for competition and a win for the consumer imo. Lets hope they can get a good old fashioned price war started ;) as both sides are clearly overpriced still lol.
 
Because that's clearly the most used configuration. 1080p will always be the baseline at present with anything else appended to it. (except for people with other set-ups of course).

And that's also ignoring the fact that your point is still wrong. I checked the other review sites and they all pretty much have them trading blows. I would say techpowerup are an anomaly in this case although can't be discounted.

I'm not treating their review on its own as gospel and clutching to my own exaggerated numbers like you though.



I checked his profile page earlier and the last 3 of the last visitors were moderators so he's probably been suspended or given infractions before. I think I'm just going to ignore him. No matter how much anyone disproves him he's going to post the same stuff.

+1. You're numbers are clearly self fabricated from the techpowerup review. It may have an 11% increase over the 680 in bf3 at the huge res. But when 11% is 3 FPS it kind of voids the argument since neither is playable IMO. You have to compare at 1920x1080 to be realistic about real world usage.
 
Because that's clearly the most used configuration. 1080p will always be the baseline at present with anything else appended to it. (except for people with other set-ups of course).
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Cool story bro. What it has to do with my 5760x1080 speed comparisons?

And that's also ignoring the fact that your point is still wrong. I checked the other review sites and they all pretty much have them trading blows. I would say techpowerup are an anomaly in this case although can't be discounted.

Over the time I grew to respect the results of Techpowerup. They have a very professional team among other amateurish sites. They are the first to be able to overclock any GPU, and they develop GPU-Z utility. Other websites you are talking of are a joke. They clearly didn't use the correct driver or something.

The fact that Techpowerup got all the numbers right(in their extensive database of reviews), but Radeon 7970 Ghz edition numbers HIGHER than some other websites only tells that 7970 Ghz is capable of delivering those high results and not the low results achieved on amateurish sites.
 
Over the time I grew to respect the results of Techpowerup. They have a very professional team among other amateurish sites. They are the first to be able to overclock any GPU, and they develop GPU-Z utility. Other websites you are talking of are a joke. They clearly didn't use the correct driver or something.

"Cool story bro"

One word.

Anomaly.

It happens. That's why it's good there's more than one review to look at.
 
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