Piracy - unbelievable figures.

Figures seem pretty believable to me. Not only that but considering these are worldwide figures I'd say they were pretty low.
 
I'm curious about the validity of these numbers.

we could rig the vote just add a torrent on a public tracker call it something **** like 3dgay villa

download the .torrent 10million times via some atuomated script. (remember you only have to download the fw kb .torrent file not the whole file for it to count as a download)

above site wil report it as the most pirated game in 2012 :D
 
How about some realistic figures for pirated 360 games as well. Much easier for the average user (As they can pay someone to mod and buy games from) + access to online play = win/win for the pirate.
 
How about some realistic figures for pirated 360 games as well. Much easier for the average user (As they can pay someone to mod and buy games from) + access to online play = win/win for the pirate.

for every 1 xbox download theres probbably atleast 3 people getting a pirated copy.

my mums 64 and even she could buy pirated films and xbox games from a guy at work... if she wanted
 
piracy makes a copy and doesn't directly take money from devs. in that sense i think it's justified for a person to pirate a game and then pay later if they enjoyed the game.

unlike console games which you can rent, or sell on after you've completed the game, a pc game is buy only without the option of selling it later. for me, that's too much money to spend on faith/just because of an expensive advertising campaign. i want to know that the game i pay for won't be a steaming pile of "disappointment". devs can keep on spending tons of cash on anti-piracy and advertising, but that's not gonna stop me getting my money's worth
 
piracy makes a copy and doesn't directly take money from devs. in that sense i think it's justified for a person to pirate a game and then pay later if they enjoyed the game.

what if your boss said you will only be paid at the end of the month if a certain cross-section of consumers feel your hard work was justified?

edit: you don't eat a meal and decide it was disappointing so refuse to pay, or do a weekly shop but decide not to pay because you didn't like the products you put in the trolley (but take them home anyway)
 
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what if your boss said you will only be paid at the end of the month if a certain cross-section of consumers feel your hard work was justified?

edit: you don't eat a meal and decide it was disappointing so refuse to pay, or do a weekly shop but decide not to pay because you didn't like the products you put in the trolley (but take them home anyway)

I agree. It shouldn't be down to the person to decide after they've gotten enjoyment from a title. If you don't want to take a gamble you shouldn't play. You can't demand money back at the cinema after sitting through a film.

That said... OcUK has always been very pro-piracy, so I doubt that's a popular reasoning... I don't agree with draconian DRM either, it's a battle neither side is going to win and the real losers are the people that pay for games legitimately.
 
Remember, some people will buy a game after 'testing' it via piracy. I don't support piracy, but that's the way it is. Each downloaded copy doesn't = a lost sale

I have done this with any game over £10 that I have liked the look off for the last 3 years. The amount of junk that gets released this has saved me 100s of pounds. Now I have over 60 game on steam yet 2 years ago only had about 4.
 
what if your boss said you will only be paid at the end of the month if a certain cross-section of consumers feel your hard work was justified?

That's practically how capitalism works :confused:

edit: you don't eat a meal and decide it was disappointing so refuse to pay,
Yes... you do

or do a weekly shop but decide not to pay because you didn't like the products you put in the trolley (but take them home anyway)

This is completely different
 
I agree. It shouldn't be down to the person to decide after they've gotten enjoyment from a title. If you don't want to take a gamble you shouldn't play. You can't demand money back at the cinema after sitting through a film.

No - you get up half way through to demand your money back.

If a game's terrible - I'm not going to play it all the way through before I decide whether to buy it or not - I'm going to see if it's enjoyable & if it is - then it'll be purchased.

That said... OcUK has always been very pro-piracy, so I doubt that's a popular reasoning... I don't agree with draconian DRM either, it's a battle neither side is going to win and the real losers are the people that pay for games legitimately.

True - there are some games I've bought where I would have had a more enjoyable / easier time had I prated those games - DRM can be a nightmare.
 
No - you get up half way through to demand your money back.

If a game's terrible - I'm not going to play it all the way through before I decide whether to buy it or not - I'm going to see if it's enjoyable & if it is - then it'll be purchased.

And how many games do people pirate, play through and think "Hmm, it was good, but I would I have bought it? Besides, I've played it through, it's not the sort to have replayability, why pay now for it?". You seriously can't say people don't do that.

If you don't want to spend money. Don't play the game.
 
And how many games do people pirate, play through and think "Hmm, it was good, but I would I have bought it? Besides, I've played it through, it's not the sort to have replayability, why pay now for it?". You seriously can't say people don't do that.

If you don't want to spend money. Don't play the game.

I'm sure some do - I'm not one of them.

But I maintain - they're likely people who would have never bought it in the first place, so the developers haven't lost a sale...
 
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