Confused, still don't understand PC's :(

Omaeka

Omaeka

Omaeka

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I just looked on YouTube and found some GTA IV videos, now when I tried to run that thing, I couldn't put it above medium without dropping below 20 frames, yet in a video I saw had a guy running it at 2336x1366 resolution, which is way higher than mine and he had the settings on very highest. So I expected him to have an amazing machine. Nope lol.

Intel(R) Pentium dual core E2180 2.0Ghz
Nvidia 9800GT 512MB
He also had a 400W PSU and 2GB of RAM.

Thats like a medium end PC by 2006 standards, right?

Yet with:

AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core 3.6Ghz
ATI Radeon HD 6850
700W PSU & 8GB RAM

I cant even push above 30fps on the absolute lowest settings.

There really must be something I'm doing badly wrong here, I've also ran Crysis @ 1280x720 resolution on my old monitor on highest settings and had pretty bad performance, around 25-30fps. Somebody on YouTube has the same settings yet averaged over 40fps with this:

''Phenom 2.1 triple core, 2 gb de ram, 9600gt.''

Also, my Crysis looked horrible for some reason, it was in now way shape or form anything like the videos I'm seeing on YouTube, looked like it was in lowest, yet the graphics settings and the ingame monitor all reported the highest settings running in everything...

I don't understand PC's tbh, its almost like every piece of hardware has its own personality, you could buy a 1GB graphics card that could never do what somebody else could with the same or even a lower card.

I game at 1440x900 resolution by the way, much lower than almost every video I watch.
 
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System Specs:
CPU: Intel® Core™2 Quad processor Q8400 (4MB L2, 2.66GHz, 1333FSB)
RAM: 2GB DDR2
Graphics: Zogis Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bits
HARD DRIVE: 1X320GB+ 1X80GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)

God this is annoying me.

I'll find the one where he's running it on a intel duo core in a sec, it was called 'nice settings' or something. :D

This still doesn't explain Crysis, somebody running lower specs than me can run it better, and I'm still curious as to why my Crysis looked awful.
 
That doesn't look like very high settings to me, then again the quality of the video isn't helping.

But I've never had any problems playing GTA IV on PC, that's with a GTX260 and now a GTX460. 1080p resolution and settings are mostly high iirc.
 
I know how pathetic and temperamental GTA IV can be, its fully possible for it to run on a £500 machine perfectly and then refuse to go above 15fps on a £5,000 machine. It still doesnt take away the fact some of these guys are running it way smoother than I can with 512MB cards and 2ghz duo cores, my laptop has that.


That's a guy running it on a HD5450, which is so far below mine, yet I cannot get near that performance.

Hes the one I thought was running it all on a 2.0ghz duo Intel, turns out it isn't, that was either another GTA or a Crysis video, I did see somewhere somebody severely out performing me with one of them things coupled up with a 512MB GPU.
 
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Omaeka said:
That's a guy running it on a HD5450, which is so far below mine, yet I cannot get near that performance.
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So even at 800x600 with the settings he shows in the video you can't beat his average FPS in the benchmark of just 22?!

Seen as you've mentioned Crysis aswell I think you should try checking all drivers are installed/up to date and hardware things such as the CPU/GPU aren't throttling in-game etc
 
I think I was on a 1200x720 monitor when I had GTA IV, I didn't try anything other than the highest resolution it offered, nor would I wanted to of played on anything else. I guess I'll just have to forget GTA IV. Everything's up to date with my drivers, I've heard about bottlenecking but I really have no idea what causes it, or whether it can be fixed, would a FX-4100 bottleneck a HD6850 by default? Is there something in particular that causes throttling?
 
I'm abit out of the loop when it comes to graphics cards!
With the throttling though you could look out for things such as high CPU temp causing it to throttle and reduce the core speed.
 
Guy in the 2nd video is at 800x600 with only Textures on High. Shadows Off = MUCH less strain.
Both are running some mods, so it's difficult to say if that would help/hinder their performance.
 
NZXT30 said:
many pc gamers lie about settings, specs and fps.
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Why bother? :confused:


tibbsey said:
Guy in the 2nd video is at 800x600 with only Textures on High. Shadows Off = MUCH less strain.
Both are running some mods, so it's difficult to say if that would help/hinder their performance.
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Is he? How do you know? I would love to get GTA IV actually running, great game despite being a fail port.
 
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If you mean how do I know what settings he's running, then there's a bit at the beginning where you see the benchmark results and it lists the settings used for the benchmark.

If you mean how do I know they're running some mods, both have custom car textures. Makes sense to me that if you've gone to the trouble of grabbing texture mods, you've probably got some other stuff in there too.
 
Is it really a fail port?

It looks loads better then consoles and runs better too and to say you can't make it look nice and run well enough is crazy talk.
 
Are your drivers completely up to date? I have the same card (Asus version) as you and also run an AMD phenom II x4 at 3.6 and I can get great performance from the game. It did take a while to get to that performance though. I had terrible stutter at the start and it would also constantly crash on me.
Unfortunately I'm at work so can't check my settings, but I'm sure it was all driver related (IIRC). I'm still running on 11.6 drivers if that helps.
Also check forums as there's suggestions for changing some settings in the .ini file
Ah, in fact I'm sure it was to do with the memory use of the graphics card. I changed the .ini file to set a limit to the amount of memory the game would use and that seemed to clear everything up. If you do a google for memory leak on gta4 there will be a guide somewhere. Good Luck
 
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