£750 Gaming spec required

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Hi guys, after years on my laptop I have finally decided to return to a desktop for gaming but require your worldly knowledge to do so

Budget: £750


Main uses of intended build: Mainly gaming, other than that just general use (videos, work when I decide to do some)


Parts required: The budget is for the tower, OS and the monitor. I don't need keyboard/mouse/speakers


Monitor resolution:I think a 22" 1920x1080 suits my needs (although feel free to tell me otherwise) I don't think I want to go above 22" due to practicality.


Storage requirements: I doubt I need more than 500GB, I already have a 500GB external.


will you be overclocking: yes/no? This, if I'm honest I'm a little unsure about. I have never overclocked before and I'm leaning towards no simply because I'm not sure I can be bothered with the hassle. However, if this causes you to gasp and cry "heathen!" and you think it's something I really should invest time/money in then please say so. If it's a fair effort and won't gain me that much I'd rather not bother.


Any motherboard requirements: No special requirements.


Extra information about desired system:

As I've said, I have done my fair share of reading around (as any one should when spending this kind of money) however I just need help on the specifics.
For example, and again please tell me if any of this is wrong, or my budget won't allow

- I'd like to go i5 (though I don't know the benefit/cost ratio with i3)
- I'd like to have 8GB RAM
- I need the OS, which I presume should be Windows 7 64 bit?
- I'm not so sure about the Graphics card, are Geforce still the way forward? Radeon?
- SSD - I'm not sure my budget allows for this, although I may be underestimating the benefit?
- Case - something that isn't huge but obviously big enough for good airflow etc. I don't want anything too fancy either, just a bog standard one will do.
- Do I need extra cooling?

Anyway, I think this is everything. Please let me know if you require any more information and any help you can give would be hugely appreciated.
 
Something like this?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £167.99
1 x OcUK E2250SWDA 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £89.99
1 x MSI HD 6850 OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.98
1 x Gigabyte Z77-DS3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £74.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) £59.99
1 x OCZ ZS Series 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £49.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £43.19
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £26.39
1 x Sony Optiarc AD-7280S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.98
Total : £760.38 (includes shipping : £19.10).



Or this if your not keen on overclocking:


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3450 3.10GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £154.99
1 x OcUK E2250SWDA 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £89.99
1 x MSI HD 6850 OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.98
1 x Gigabyte Z77-DS3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £74.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) £59.99
1 x OCZ ZS Series 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £49.99
1 x OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (AGT3-25SAT3-60G) £49.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £44.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £43.19
1 x Sony Optiarc AD-7280S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.98
Total : £770.99 (includes shipping : £19.10).

 
Even if you do not feel like overclocking now, after you build it and tinker with it for a little bit you may feel like you want to try some overclocking. Overclocking with these Intel chips is very easy and unless you do something very stupid then you are unlikely to cause any damage to them.
 
Even if you do not feel like overclocking now, after you build it and tinker with it for a little bit you may feel like you want to try some overclocking. Overclocking with these Intel chips is very easy and unless you do something very stupid then you are unlikely to cause any damage to them.

+1 totaly agree go with the 1st spec unless some1 goes better
 
Thanks so much for the quick replies!

Build looks great to me (not that that means anything). Only thing is I expected the graphics card to take up a higher percentage of the budget? I just presumed that for a gaming pc it would play a bigger part I suppose. But like I said my knowledge on these things is very limited.

As for overclocking, I'll do some research. Assuming that the airflow is good does it affect the longevity of the components at all?

Thanks again for the help.
 
Thanks so much for the quick replies!

Build looks great to me (not that that means anything). Only thing is I expected the graphics card to take up a higher percentage of the budget? I just presumed that for a gaming pc it would play a bigger part I suppose. But like I said my knowledge on these things is very limited.

As for overclocking, I'll do some research. Assuming that the airflow is good does it affect the longevity of the components at all?

Thanks again for the help.

The OS and screen eat a big part of the budget. So realistically, you are looking at £580 for the tower, which doesn't leave room for much. The decision I suppose being, do you go i3 with a better graphics card, or i5 with a lesser graphics card.

i3 can give you a 7850, which is GTX 570 performance. Ideally, you want both. a 2500K / 3570K, with a quick GPU.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7850 Power Edition Twin Frozr IV OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £191.99
1 x Intel Core i3-2120 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x OcUK E2250SWDA 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.98
1 x MSI Z77A-G43 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £77.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) £59.99
1 x OCZ ZS Series 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £49.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £43.19
1 x BitFenix Merc Alpha Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x Sony Optiarc AD-7280S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.98
Total : £754.99 (includes shipping : £19.10).



As for overclocking, yeah you need decent airflow, and the Zalman Z9+ will do that. The Bitfenix will require some extra fans. And of course a CPU cooler at some stage. That's always something you can do later, the CPUs (2500K / 3570K) are really not a bottleneck in games and don't need the extra kick just yet.
 
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The OS and screen eat a big part of the budget. So realistically, you are looking at £580 for the tower, which doesn't leave room for much. The decision I suppose being, do you go i3 with a better graphics card, or i5 with a lesser graphics card.

Yeah, I think when I was thinking this up I wasn't appreciating the monitor/OS in the equation, but alas, it cannot be helped.

If I'm honest I don't think I'm going to playing massively GPU intensive games (ie BF3) so I think I will stick with the i5.

I think two last questions before I think about finalising it -

1. Olivier Renault - you have put the 3.3GHZ Sandybridge but Bacon has put the 3.4GHZ Ivybridge? Since they're exactly the same price shouldn't I go with the Ivybridge? Or is my assumption that the Ivybridge has higher performance wrong?

2. If I can squeeze my budget a bit is the jump from 6850 -> 6870 worth the extra £?

Thanks again for all the brilliant help.
 
Yeah, I think when I was thinking this up I wasn't appreciating the monitor/OS in the equation, but alas, it cannot be helped.

If I'm honest I don't think I'm going to playing massively GPU intensive games (ie BF3) so I think I will stick with the i5.

I think two last questions before I think about finalising it -

1. Olivier Renault - you have put the 3.3GHZ Sandybridge but Bacon has put the 3.4GHZ Ivybridge? Since they're exactly the same price shouldn't I go with the Ivybridge? Or is my assumption that the Ivybridge has higher performance wrong?

2. If I can squeeze my budget a bit is the jump from 6850 -> 6870 worth the extra £?

Thanks again for all the brilliant help.

1. The Ivy is OEM, meaning you will need to include the price of a CPU cooler. If you want to go cheap on the cooler, you have quite a few choices. Nero3, Xigmatek Gaia, Zaward Vapor. All really quite decent. Next step for me would be the True Spirit 120 (my fave, I have its little brother the MUX-120), then the Matterhorn Pure or the Hyper 612.

2. At its best, a 6870 will compete with a 560ti. Look at the charts on game at your resolution, and see if you can cope with a 6850.

I've posted an alternative, but to be fair, I like Bacon's first choice better. Good platform with a reasonably powerful PSU and a good case, with a reservation on the board. I'd get the Z77-D3H.

My guess is, with a HD6850, you would be OK. You can upgrade the GPU later quite easily if you feel you want more performance / eye candy (HD7850 or NVidia's competition, which would be a GTX660? GTX670?).

One of the framerate killers you can do without is anti-aliasing. Usually reducing that on stripped down GPUs, using post processing AA which is much cheaper, brings better performance and virtually no visual cost.
 
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