Higgs Boson Found

Morbius · 5 Jul 2012 at 11:23

Craig1981 said:
Is the guy who came up with the theory still alive? Bet he'd be chuffed to know he was right the whole time.

Peter Higgs is very much alive and was at CERN for the announcement yesterday.

I think to say he was chuffed is an understatement.

Glaucus · 5 Jul 2012 at 11:24

The question is, what's the time estimate for this to be confirmed and to work out what the particle decays into?

Craig1981 · 5 Jul 2012 at 11:26

Morbius said:
Peter Higgs is very much alive and was at CERN for the announcement yesterday.

Yaaaaay!

Woden · 5 Jul 2012 at 11:33

Morbius said:
Peter Higgs is very much alive and was at CERN for the announcement yesterday.

I think to say he was chuffed is an understatement.

How many of his mates now owe him a fiver?

Morbius · 5 Jul 2012 at 11:44

Woden said:
How many of his mates now owe him a fiver?

I think he's owed quite a bit more than that, say one Nobel prize?

gjrc · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:09

I wish I understood how impressive this is...

I have read what it is and read what its supposed to mean but I still have no clue what the hell this story is all about... i even read Brian Cox breakdown of it in The Sun today....

:confused:

kedge · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:24

Brilliant, this just gives me an insight/clue about the way God upholds the universe He created. Awesome Creator.

Spook187 · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:32

kedge said:
Brilliant, this just gives me an insight/clue about the way God upholds the universe He created. Awesome Creator.

You really think that :eek:

anything I don't mind · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:41

How do we realy know they found it though? is there any way of proving it ? is it even possible to prove such a thing?

King Damager · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:42

Woden said:
How many of his mates now owe him a fiver?

Apparently Hawking lost a $100 bet with an American physicist, but is obviously still pleased for Higgs. Also said that he fully expects Higgs to get a Nobel Prize (he must do surely?!)

kd

Greebo · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:46

King Damager said:
Apparently Hawking lost a $100 bet with an American physicist, but is obviously still pleased for Higgs. Also said that he fully expects Higgs to get a Nobel Prize (he must do surely?!)

kd

Just seen that interview, made me laugh since he was asked about how important this find was and he said it had cost him $100

On another note, he said it was disappointing as a lot of the best advances have come from failed experiments where you don't get the result you expected.

Dave · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:50

Seems to me that they have just been ploughing through data to reduce the uncertainty systematically - I presume that there is still a lot of work to be done in characterising the boson and its properties. Of course, this will mean more funding for the labs, so yay for them

kedge said:
Brilliant, this just gives me an insight/clue about the way God upholds the universe He created. Awesome Creator.

Not sure if serious . . .

Docaroo · 5 Jul 2012 at 12:52

Aren't there a team of 5 theorists who made the theory, not just Higgs? It just bears his name?

Would all 5 get the nobel prize? TBH this does require a nobel prize.

Castiel · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:00

Docaroo said:
Aren't there a team of 5 theorists who made the theory, not just Higgs? It just bears his name?

Would all 5 get the nobel prize? TBH this does require a nobel prize.

There is a problem with the Nobel....rules state that a maximum of 3 people can get the prize and there are several teams that theorised such a particle...Higgs was not even the first to publish.

You basically have 4 or 5 physicists competing for 2 places if we assume Peter Higgs is a shoe-in for one of tem.

That is not to mention the LHC teams and physicists that actually found the particle.

This is going to turn into a right royal hooha. Mark my words.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/359...tlascmsexperiments-lhc-largehadroncollide.htm

olivier renault · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:22

kedge said:
Brilliant, this just gives me an insight/clue about the way God upholds the universe He created. Awesome Creator.

And here we go... Surprised it took that long.

Morbius · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:25

Castiel said:
Higgs was not even the first to publish.

Higgs' first paper on the subject was refused by the journal he sent it to, which is why he wasn't the first to publish. Anyway, all of the authors were building upon an earlier paper by Higgs.

Spook187 · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:30

olivier renault said:
And here we go... Surprised it took that long.

I know,the bible bashers getting on the band wagon,wonder why they didn't know all this before science told them.

ElliorR · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:34

Surely if a god had created everything, and including things at the subatomic level, wouldn't the bible mention these items.

And on the first day god started at the Planck level and created the cosmic foam, and then he moved on to the Higgs Boson so everything that needed to have mass would. The almighty knew it would be called the Higgs Boson as being omnipotent he could see to the 20th century AD and knew the the particle would get its name from the future physicist Peter Higgs.

I must've missed that verse in the word of god.

Castiel · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:46

olivier renault said:
And here we go... Surprised it took that long.

ElliorR said:
Surely if a god had created everything, and including things at the subatomic level, wouldn't the bible mention these items.

And on the first day god started at the Planck level and created the cosmic foam, and then he moved on to the Higgs Boson so everything that needed to have mass would. The almighty knew it would be called the Higgs Boson as being omnipotent he could see to the 20th century AD and knew the the particle would get its name from the future physicist Peter Higgs.

I must've missed that verse in the word of god.

Don't encourage him...he is entitled to his opinion as are we all.

And the Bible wouldn't mention these things becasue it wasn't written to impart the knowledge of the universe but to help the individual in their relationship with their God and Spirituality.

The discovery of the Higgs Boson, like most things in science doesn't have anything to do with proving or disproving God or the reason why the universe exists...it deals with the How.

By questioning Kedge (who is a creationist btw) all you are doing is risking this thread being derailed into another pointless argument on the why of the Universe (if there even is one) rather than the how......let him believe that the discovery is just another part of his Gods plan, he cannot prove it any more than we can disprove it, so it is ultimately fruitless to acknowledge it at.

One · 5 Jul 2012 at 13:58

Castiel said:
There is a problem with the Nobel....rules state that a maximum of 3 people can get the prize and there are several teams that theorised such a particle...Higgs was not even the first to publish.

You basically have 4 or 5 physicists competing for 2 places if we assume Peter Higgs is a shoe-in for one of tem.

That is not to mention the LHC teams and physicists that actually found the particle.

This is going to turn into a right royal hooha. Mark my words.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/359...tlascmsexperiments-lhc-largehadroncollide.htm

It's quite funny I think, that you have people that are easily contenders for the smartest people currently living and yet they can still have a huff and a puff and get uptight about a little prize. As if their work isn't going down in the history books already

Richard Feynman didn't want the award and almost turned it down before realising that would land him with more commotion that just accepting it.