Weight Loss/Virtual Gastric Band/Etc

Raymond Lin · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:48

The Halk said:
I love the taste of yoghurt, I'm careful not to eat any Muller ****e that's full of sugar etc. Just plain natural yoghurt.

Can't stand uncooked carrots, and I'd pay not to eat humous

I'm not a big fan of chocolate, I do have a couple of bars open that I bought about 6 weeks ago, swiss high cocoa dark chocolate stuff, one with chilli and one with orange. I'll have a square with a cup of tea late at night.

Bread and carbs in general I have to avoid. I do eat potatoes with my dinner most nights, boiled in their skins with a bit of oatmeal on top for texture or microwaved in their skins or mashed with loads of pepper. I'm very reluctant to cut them out.

If I have yogurt, this is how i have it.

Also, the Paleo diet is very popular in America right now, it's known as the caveman diet. Basically imagine a caveman, if he can't have it back then, you can't eat it in yours. Not only that means no processed food and refined sugar, it also means no grain (or very little).

My friend in the US is doing a slight varied version of it and she loves eating it this way, and she looks really healthy.

I got a text from her the other week, this was her meal.

Dj_Jestar · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:50

RE: Drinking lots of water, it's more than just stopping hunger pains. Your body needs water to do many things, including flushing out (literally) the **** in your body.

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:51

Raymond Lin said:
The Paleo diet is very popular in America right now, it's known as the caveman diet. Basically imagine a caveman, if he can't have it back then, you can't eat it in yours. Not only that means no processed food and refined sugar, it also means no grain (or very little).

I don't fancy that yoghurt! Looks sweetened and/or flavoured. I take mine like that, with fruit like that or at a stretch a small amount of jam.

The paleo diet is more or less what I did when I was on Atkins. Processed food pretty much means added sugar/flour.

Mason- · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:52

Anyone got a decent veg soup recipe?

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:54

Dj_Jestar said:
RE: Drinking lots of water, it's more than just stopping hunger pains. Your body needs water to do many things, including flushing out (literally) the **** in your body.

Hmm. What you've said is true, but that's the first steps into fatuous holistic/detox/testicles territory there. The body doesn't need anything like the amount of liquid that new age rubbish claims.

I still intend to drink a few glasses more at night, but there's a whole lot of nonsense sprung up about water.

I drink a litre of tea in the morning, a litre of water with lunch, half a litre of tea in the afternoon and half a litre of water with my dinner. I'm pretty certain that I'm not dehydrated - I also eat fruit and veg - but I'm wondering if I could use more later in the day.

Raymond Lin · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:58

^^ that's a LOT of tea. Is that with sugar as well?

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:58

Mason- said:
Anyone got a decent veg soup recipe?

Mine is tremendous

I take a couple of chicken leg quarters and boil them in 1.5l of water in the soup pot for 60 minutes, I take them out and pull the meat off the bones, and chuck the skin and bones and iffy meat back in and boil it for another 30 minutes. I then remove the skin and bones. I add another 1.5l of water and 4 Knorr chicken stock cubes. Take half a large turnip - or equivalent in small ones - grate it. 500g of carrots - grated. 250g of onions - grated. 250g of potatoes - cubed. A handful of barley and a handful of split lentils. And usually another 1.5l of water. Bring it to a furious boil and then simmer for 3 hours. The next day simmer for 2 hours. It's ready to eat, but it's better the following day.

You must grate the vegetables, never blend them.

I use the chicken meat in sandwiches, or you could use it in a curry. It's not great to eat on it's own after being boiled for an hour.

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 01:59

Raymond Lin said:
^^ that's a LOT of tea. Is that with sugar as well?

No. Sweeteners and a little skimmed milk.

Mason- · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:01

The Halk said:
Mine is tremendous

I take a couple of chicken leg quarters and boil them in 1.5l of water in the soup pot for 60 minutes, I take them out and pull the meat off the bones, and chuck the skin and bones and iffy meat back in and boil it for another 30 minutes. I then remove the skin and bones. I add another 1.5l of water and 4 Knorr chicken stock cubes. Take half a large turnip - or equivalent in small ones - grate it. 500g of carrots - grated. 250g of onions - grated. 250g of potatoes - cubed. A handful of barley and a handful of split lentils. And usually another 1.5l of water. Bring it to a furious boil and then simmer for 3 hours. The next day simmer for 2 hours. It's ready to eat, but it's better the following day.

You must grate the vegetables, never blend them.

I use the chicken meat in sandwiches, or you could use it in a curry. It's not great to eat on it's own after being boiled for an hour.

How many portions is that? Seems like an awful lot!

Mickie · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:02

does iit really matter what you eat? unless their is a problem with your body..

but ive been eating mcdonalds, and other bad stuff but also fruit and veg but i always maintain not ever really going much over 1500calories a day and ive been losing 2 pounds a week for 5 weeks now

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:03

Mason- said:
How many portions is that? Seems like an awful lot!

About 8 500ml portions. Perhaps 12 for people who don't enjoy soup as much as me.

I make it on the Saturday afternoon. I finish it on the Sunday and have a bowl on Sunday night. On the Monday evening I boil it up again and have a bowl with my dinner and put the remains into Addis 500ml beakers. I put it in the beakers boiling so that it's as near to sterile as I can get it, and one it's cooled it goes in the fridge and is eaten by the weekend.

Mason- · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:05

The Halk said:
About 8 500ml portions. Perhaps 12 for people who don't enjoy soup as much as me.

I make it on the Saturday afternoon. I finish it on the Sunday and have a bowl on Sunday night. On the Monday evening I boil it up again and have a bowl with my dinner and put the remains into Addis 500ml beakers. I put it in the beakers boiling so that it's as near to sterile as I can get it, and one it's cooled it goes in the fridge and is eaten by the weekend.

I like this I'm going to make some tomorrow. What do you think about adding chilli? I quite like spicy food.

cheets64 · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:05

Raymond Lin said:
If I have yogurt, this is how i have it.

Also, the Paleo diet is very popular in America right now, it's known as the caveman diet. Basically imagine a caveman, if he can't have it back then, you can't eat it in yours. Not only that means no processed food and refined sugar, it also means no grain (or very little).

My friend in the US is doing a slight varied version of it and she loves eating it this way, and she looks really healthy.

I got a text from her the other week, this was her meal.

looks like a fad diet really, doubt a caveman was eating anything like that.

On the fruit thing, fruit is full of sugar so I only tend to eat stuff I need for energy, Bananas mainly probably once a day and a few oranges/apples in the week, fruit is basically natures mars bar.

People think "oh fruit, that is good for you" and then eat tons of sugar.

http://www.sugarstacks.com/fruits.htm

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:07

Mason- said:
I like this I'm going to make some tomorrow. What do you think about adding chilli? I quite like spicy food.

I usually eat it with a bit of black pepper, but chilli would be ok too. Make the soup and add the chilli to the bowl before you eat it?

Mason- · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:07

The Halk said:
About 8 500ml portions. Perhaps 12 for people who don't enjoy soup as much as me.

I make it on the Saturday afternoon. I finish it on the Sunday and have a bowl on Sunday night. On the Monday evening I boil it up again and have a bowl with my dinner and put the remains into Addis 500ml beakers. I put it in the beakers boiling so that it's as near to sterile as I can get it, and one it's cooled it goes in the fridge and is eaten by the weekend.

Oh and also nearly forgot, thank you.

Dj_Jestar · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:08

The Halk said:
Hmm. What you've said is true, but that's the first steps into fatuous holistic/detox/testicles territory there. The body doesn't need anything like the amount of liquid that new age rubbish claims.

I still intend to drink a few glasses more at night, but there's a whole lot of nonsense sprung up about water.

I drink a litre of tea in the morning, a litre of water with lunch, half a litre of tea in the afternoon and half a litre of water with my dinner. I'm pretty certain that I'm not dehydrated - I also eat fruit and veg - but I'm wondering if I could use more later in the day.

I said nothing of holistic stuff. Not sure whether to be insulted at the blasé dismissal, either.

It's fact that your body needs lots of water to maintain health, where part of that is to regulate blood sugar levels because glucose is soluble, and another is to literally rid the system of toxins and other substances that are soluble - i.e. you need a lot of water to shift them. We're also made up of 60% water. We need to keep those levels up.

Drink 3 litres of water a day, and you'll need to go for a number 2 more often (as well as number 1). That's not holistic, that's fact.

Body builders drink extreme amounts of water to cut fat and heighten vascularity before a competition, as do boxers and fighters to cut back for a weigh-in. One of our very own members, Steedie, was drinking 14 (yes, fourteen) litres a day before his competition.

Also, 1.5litres of tea a day? That's crazy amounts of caffeine to be taking in on a daily basis. Tea is also quite a strong diuretic. Consider swapping it for water

Mason- · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:08

The Halk said:
I usually eat it with a bit of black pepper, but chilli would be ok too. Make the soup and add the chilli to the bowl before you eat it?

Pepper will probably suffice might just put chilli flakes on it

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:09

cheets64 said:
lOn the fruit thing, fruit is full of sugar so I only tend to eat stuff I need for energy, Bananas mainly probably once a day and a few oranges/apples in the week, fruit is basically natures mars bar.

People think "oh fruit, that is good for you" and then eat tons of sugar.

http://www.sugarstacks.com/fruits.htm

My understanding is that fruit is nutrient rich, so if you're going to eat sugars then that's a good place to get them from - just so long as you were fine with eating the carbs/sugars in fruit.

However it provokes a hunger response, so that our bodies can eat lots of fruit and put on weight while it's in season, because we can't always get fruit.... or at least we couldn't when we evolved. Because we now live in a world where there's in season fruit all the time we can gain weight easily by gorging on it.

I'm now going to read the link and see how right/wrong I am.

Mason- · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:10

Dj_Jestar said:
I said nothing of holistic stuff. It's fact that your body needs lots of water to maintain health, where part of that is to regulate blood sugar levels because glucose is soluble, and another is to literally rid the system of toxins and other substances that are soluble - i.e. you need a lot of water to shift them. We're also made up of 60% water. We need to keep those levels up.

Drink 3 litres of water a day, and you'll need to go for a number 2 more often (as well as number 1). That's not holistic, that's fact.

Body builders drink extreme amounts of water to cut fat before a competition, as do boxers and fighters to cut back for a weigh-in. One of our very own members, Steedie, was drinking 14 (yes, fourteen) litres a day before his competition.

Also, 1.5litres of tea a day? That's crazy amounts of caffeine to be taking in on a daily basis.

My body water is 42% :/ gotta drink more!

The Halk · 9 Jul 2012 at 02:11

Dj_Jestar said:
I said nothing of holistic stuff. Not sure whether to be insulted at the blasé dismissal, either.

It's fact that your body needs lots of water to maintain health, where part of that is to regulate blood sugar levels because glucose is soluble, and another is to literally rid the system of toxins and other substances that are soluble - i.e. you need a lot of water to shift them. We're also made up of 60% water. We need to keep those levels up.

Drink 3 litres of water a day, and you'll need to go for a number 2 more often (as well as number 1). That's not holistic, that's fact.

Body builders drink extreme amounts of water to cut fat before a competition, as do boxers and fighters to cut back for a weigh-in. One of our very own members, Steedie, was drinking 14 (yes, fourteen) litres a day before his competition.

Also, 1.5litres of tea a day? That's crazy amounts of caffeine to be taking in on a daily basis.

I'm not disagreeing with what you say about water - in fact you've been very correct in what you say. I've just noticed a lot of voodoo nonsense about water and detox etc. You've not said the rubbish though, I'm not getting at you. Just that people seem to use what you say as the foundation for some utter bunk.

I love my tea... it's Assam I drink, and I put 2 teabags in each 400ml cup... and I get them as strong as I possibly can. I haven't yet come to terms with it yet, but I think I'll need to stop drinking as much :/