BSc/BA/MSc/MBA after you name...

At least you admit it... ;)

(yes I went to a Poly, followed by a 1994 group uni...)

Hehe.

My point still holds though... some degrees are worth more than others.

That's generally dependant on the uni

For the most part, degrees from "old" unis are worth more than those from "new" unis.

There are, of course, exceptions... but still not that many, as far as I'm aware.

There are also some courses which are a complete joke, these are mostly hosted by "new" unis.
 

You have to remember Plymouth was founded in the 1860s as a maritime/navigation college. A large proportion of its degrees have that influence still. For example its one of the only universities that teaches coastal engineering and has a dedicated university dive centre to teach students professional diving qualifications. It also does a lot of naval architecture and ocean sciences. Kinda makes sense they do a business course related to their strengths...
 
crinkelshoes did you go to university? You seem to have a dislike for university in general.

Yeah... a real one for 3 years & then spent my 4th year conducting research at the Harvard Smithsonian Institute :p

My mother is also a Principal Lecturer and acting head of department at another uni.

I wouldn't say I have a general dislike of uni in general... only what I would consider "fake" unis... but then I'm an elitist *****
 
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Yeah... a real one for 3 years & then spent my 4th year conducting research at the Harvard Smithsonian Institute :p

My mother is also a Principal Lecturer and acting head of department at another uni.

So why are you so negative about people trying to persue their goals of getting a degree in a subject that interests them? Not everyone has/had the chance to go to an established (non polytechnic) university.
 
You have to remember Plymouth was founded in the 1860s as a maritime/navigation college. A large proportion of its degrees have that influence still. For example its one of the only universities that teaches coastal engineering and has a dedicated university dive centre to teach students professional diving qualifications. It also does a lot of naval architecture and ocean sciences. Kinda makes sense they do a business course related to their strengths...

Hey I aint knocking it if you want to go to Plymouth and do Marine Technology or Coastal Engineering ( perfectly respectable degrees ). Although reading how supposedly wonderful it is, I am still far from convinced in regards to the surfing degree. It just sounds wrong!
 
I wouldn't say I have a general dislike of uni in general... only what I would consider "fake" unis... but then I'm an elitist *****

Also guilty :p

Though I don't really believe in 'fake' unis ( although some unis are godawful ), I do believe in 'fake' courses, universities are awash with them.
 
I wouldn't say I have a general dislike of uni in general... only what I would consider "fake" unis... but then I'm an elitist *****

So why are you so negative about people trying to persue their goals of getting a degree in a subject that interests them? Not everyone has/had the chance to go to an established (non polytechnic) university.

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They didn't have the chance because they weren't clever enough, didn't work hard enough or didn't have goals that were appropriate to chasing such a degree.

My issue is that the fake unis give you the same letters after your name... there's no difference between the two and I feel there should be.

However - that would negate the entire point of removing the polytechnic name which was done to supposedly help against this. Differentiation is a good thing... necessary to the capitalist way of life.

What they've really done is devalue degrees, hugely. Plus, I'm heaped in with lesser-educated people despite having something that's noticeably above and beyond what has now become the norm.

However, I think any decent firm looking to hire someone should be able to differenciate between a good and bad course.
 
Just out of interest,

If I said to you University of Hull what is your initial impression?

I studied there. As said before me, good uni but the area of Hull isn't as bad as many have made it out to be. There are worst and obviously like all big city, there are sections you wouldn't walk alone at night.

Hull Uni is very good - one of the most well know uni for Chemistry (especially with regards to the chemical entity of LCD being found there!). I grad with Pharmaceutical Science there with a great knowledge of Chemistry.
 
My issue is that the fake unis give you the same letters after your name... there's no difference between the two and I feel there should be.

Totally agree, there should be a difference. As it stands a person who has a degree in Latin gets a BA Honours, and so does someone who gets a degree in Celebrity Journalism, although there is clearly a massive difference in value between these two degrees. Everything is an Honours degree these days. It actually used to mean something at one time, now there are hardly any ordinary ( without Honours ) degrees given out.
 
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Totally agree, there should be a difference. As it stands a person who has a degree in Latin gets a BA Honours, and so does someone who gets a degree in Celebrity Journalism, although there is clearly a massive difference in value between these two degrees. Everything is an Honours degree these days. It actually used to mean something at one time, now there are hardly any ordinary degrees given out.

I think this is why people have stopped sticking the letters after their name.

Those with real degrees don't want to be associated with those who don't have one.

So the only ones still using the letters (in general) are those who want to make it appear as though they have more than they really do to improve their image (hence my previous middle-management comment).

(yes, there are exceptions to this like LLB / CEng etc)

In employment, I don't think we're getting penalised too much (I certainly hope not) - however it's the general consensus that groups us together and that's what I'm not fond of.

It could be worse... it's just an annoyance & I like standing out... I stand out for a reason!

Conversely... I'm also not a fan of non-medical "doctors" - not to detract from a PhD being a worthwhile pursuit... but IMO there should be alternate terminology
 
Thankfully nearly everyone in my industry has a degree from an accredited institute so I dont have to mingle with celebrity journalism graduates; however that doesnt stop them from applying.
 
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