What is so special about a Honda Integra Type R - DC5?

Virdi · 18 Jul 2012 at 07:46

Hi all,

So this is what I'd like to understand please:

What is so special about a Honda Integra Type R - DC5?

Thanks

atpbx · 18 Jul 2012 at 08:14

From what I understand its a nicer looking Civic Type R with a LSD and a bit more power and a little less weight.

Nice little car by all accounts.

Frozennova · 18 Jul 2012 at 08:34

The best naturally aspirated petrol engine ever produced in what is one of the best handling fwd drive chassis ever produced.

It's a winning combination.

rG-tom · 18 Jul 2012 at 08:37

ManLoveRulesOK said:
The best naturally aspirated petrol engine ever produced in what is one of the best handling fwd drive chassis ever produced.

It's a winning combination.

Best NA petrol engine full stop? or best NA petrol engine in a FWD car?

I'm sure there are a good few arguements against it being best NA engine ever, ie there's a few damn special V8s/V10/V12s

Will · 18 Jul 2012 at 08:40

ManLoveRulesOK said:
The best naturally aspirated petrol engine ever produced in what is one of the best handling fwd drive chassis ever produced.

It's a winning combination.

So the hyperbole begins....the K20 is amongst the best naturally aspirated four pot engines, but the best naturally aspirated engine ever? Hmmm!

paradigm · 18 Jul 2012 at 08:41

Quite. I'd certainly rate the Straight-6 S54 in the E46 CSL as a "better" N/A engine than the Honda's, and that's before we start talking V8+

Frozennova · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:20

I should have added the four pot part, I'm well aware there are better NA engines, but I they are larger capacity and with more cylinders.

Out of curiosity how many production NA engines produce more bhp/litre than the K20

Jonnycoupe · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:23

ManLoveRulesOK said:
I should have added the four pot part, I'm well aware there are better NA engines, but I they are larger capacity and with more cylinders.

Out of curiosity how many production NA engines produce more bhp/litre than the K20

The F20 from the same stable....

Eliot · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:23

I'd be inclined to argue against a torqueless vtec being the best na 4 pot too....
If its vtec's you want, surely the s2000 is more vtec'y anyway

NathWraith · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:33

ManLoveRulesOK said:
Out of curiosity how many production NA engines produce more bhp/litre than the K20

I don't really understand this BHP/lite thing. Sure it sounds impressive but what difference does it make?

Firestar_3x · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:36

You have a huge sea of **** FWD cars, then right at the top of the pile you have the DC2 / DC5.

Great drivers cars.

Matt82 · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:41

is it just me who felt far happier in the dc2?

Muffin` · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:49

ManLoveRulesOK said:
Out of curiosity how many production NA engines produce more bhp/litre than the K20

F20, B16B, SR16VE

K20 is still a good unit and was in use for quite a number of years, old now though.

Muffin` · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:51

NathWraith said:
I don't really understand this BHP/lite thing. Sure it sounds impressive but what difference does it make?

It's the epeen of driving a technological masterpiece... and it explains the engine dynamic. Hondas, Ferrari's, Porches all cars you drive hard to get the most out of them.

cwhitehead · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:51

Both ugly if you ask me although some mods can make the DC5 acceptable.

Eliot · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:58

I thought dc'2 looked nice until i saw one lately.
The rear has not aged well at all.
The arches are dead flat too..

topshot · 18 Jul 2012 at 09:59

Toyotas 2ZZ-GE 1.8 litre NA produces 190bhp

Dup · 18 Jul 2012 at 10:12

I loved the K20 in my EP3, but the gearbox was best memory I took from it in terms of driving experience. I love thrashing cars so the engine suited me well but the gearbox made it all that much worthwhile.

I think the great appeal is that these cars can be revved to the redline on a daily basis and just take it in their stride. Just keep the oil topped up and drive. I did 40K in my EP3, thrashed the living daylights out of it every day and it never complained. Miss it.

Eliot · 18 Jul 2012 at 10:13

indeed

Personally, (Im not trying to be contraversial)
But i much prefer a square 2.0 litre with power a bit lower down than say a k20 that you have to rev the balls off. Even if you scarifice top end power because of it
I accept this is probably not the most common of opinions though

merlin · 18 Jul 2012 at 10:31

A stock K20 is an acquired taste.

A remapped K20 however is something else - you get the mid range and the top end.