Why is this bad?

One point,

While global warming & cooling happens on a regular basis - the concern in this case is more based around the speed in which it's occurring (the climate change crowd believe).

Animal life on earth is very good at adaptive to slow changes in the eco-system - but quick changes not so much.

The earth will be fine no matter what, the question is - will we wipe out half of our population as a result of our ****less attitude towards our planet.

Sea pollution is a bigger issue (which seems to be ignored) along with massively depleting fish stocks & the ravaging of arable land globally at an incredibly alarming rate (due to modern farming methods) which will most certainly result in food shortages in the near future.

I'm far more concerned about the above, but it's not as catchy so get's ignored.
 
Better than you do obviously :rolleyes:

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Fresh water and salt water have a different density

That's the pessimist scientist measuring there, with the rule at a random 0.

Glass half empty and all that.
 
Why would molten ice raise the sea levels? Do you understand science?
You do know that a significant portion of ice is located on land near the sea.

It's actually very possible for melting ice to increase the sea level - do you understand science?.

Also,

"In a paper titled "The Melting of Floating Ice will Raise the Ocean Level" submitted to Geophysical Journal International, Noerdlinger demonstrates that melt water from sea ice and floating ice shelves could add 2.6% more water to the ocean than the water displaced by the ice, or the equivalent of approximately 4 centimeters (1.57 inches) of sea-level rise."
 
Better than you do obviously :rolleyes:

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Fresh water and salt water have a different density

Sigh.

Read, learn. I can't be bothered retyping it.

http://wikivar.com/2010/12/09/will-global-sea-levels-rise-as-the-arctic-melts/

You do know that a significant portion of ice is located on land near the sea.

It's actually very possible for melting ice to increase the sea level - do you not understand science?.

We're not discussing that though.
 
Meh, the Earth's climate has been changing for centuries. Humans and animals have always adapted and evolved to cope with it.

White people for example evolved from black skinned ancestors as they moved north. If we can physically change that much to meet our surrounding's environment I don't see why the Earth's temperature rising by a degree or two is such a big deal.

Over population is the biggest issue and compounds the AGW thing into being a bigger problem than it should be.

In my opinion of course.

Perhaps we should just make sure though - you know.. just incase?
 
You do know that a significant portion of ice is located on land near the sea.

It's actually very possible for melting ice to increase the sea level - do you understand science?.

I disagree. It is possible that thermal increases will affect sea level, but not due to melting Arctic ice.
 
Where did you get a 2.5% increase in sea level from?

The research and paper that Professor Peter Noerdlinger released, and actually I just looked it up and it's 2.6% and not 2.5!


The common misconception that floating ice won’t increase sea level when it melts occurs because the difference in density between fresh water and salt water is not taken into consideration. Archimedes’ Principle states that an object immersed in a fluid is buoyed up by a force equal to the weight of the fluid it displaces. However, Noerdlinger notes that because freshwater is not as dense as saltwater, freshwater actually has greater volume than an equivalent weight of saltwater. Thus, when freshwater ice melts in the ocean, it contributes a greater volume of melt water than it originally displaced.
 
I disagree. It is possible that thermal increases will affect sea level, but not due to melting Arctic ice.
Well, it will increase it by something.

If it's by enough to be a problem is another matter.

If we did get global warning to the scale which caused the Arctic to melt, we would also lose most of the ice on the land near the sea in the northern hemisphere.

While I doubt it would do a massive amount, in some parts of the world a tiny chance is enough to wash out land.

I'm not saying it's going to destroy/drown the world, but it will have a an impact.

...and was it due to one large calving event?
No, that was for everything (IIRC). - in isolation this event will cause nothing of significance.

To be honest, we will have poisoned the ocean & our farming land before we have to worry about global warming anyway at this rate.
 
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...and was it due to one large calving event?

You were saying that icebergs melting have no effect on sea levels as were others, you were wrong, and I provided evidence/research and even physical example/pictures categorically proving you were wrong!

Stop splitting hairs and be happy you no longer have incorrect views/data on icebergs melting and sea-levels!
 
While I doubt it would do a massive amount, in some parts of the world a tiny chance is enough to wash out land.

And people are incapable of moving now?

Again, this is only a potential problem because of over population globally. The shorelines of the continents have been changing for centuries, people just moved before but as the world gets ever more crowded it makes that harder to do.
 
Sure, if it has no impacts on the lives of people. However that's not the case.

It's like not leaving your house just in case you get run over.

What? I was suggesting we make sure that we are doing everything we can to investigate the future health of our planet. Just incase.
 
And people are incapable of moving now?

Again, this is only a potential problem because of over population globally. The shorelines of the continents have been changing for centuries, people just moved before but as the world gets ever more crowded it makes that harder to do.
Well, as most of the worlds population live near the sea - also not everybody lives in a developed country with a reasonable level of social mobility.

I agree population growth is a bigger issue, along with many others - but global sea levels rising will result in the displacement & deaths of a number of people.

The problem is also based around land ownership, historically people could just move on & rebuild a house & use the land to survive on.

Everything is owned now, it's not that simple.
 
You were saying that icebergs melting have no effect on sea levels as were others, you were wrong, and I provided evidence/research and even physical example/pictures categorically proving you were wrong!

Stop splitting hairs and be happy you no longer have incorrect views/data on icebergs melting and sea-levels!

Where did i say that?

You quoted an incorrect figure, and I said that this particular event would have not much impact at all. A fact.

That you argued against something I hadn't said makes no odds.
 
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