The bit in bold is something you've been saying for ages and its the biggest piece of **** anyone has ever said on here.
Firstly, last season or the season before he managed to take the ball on the wing, run it past a defender and score a great goal, secondly Utd's BEST counter attacking football in the past decade was Berbatov upfront with Rooney running in from the left and Ronaldo from the right, the fastest/best counter attack in the league was spear headed by Berbatov, lastly, there isn't a player on earth who can run faster than someone else can kick the ball.
Speed with the ball has no bearing at all on the pace of the game, none.
Its MUCH quicker to hit a ball up to Berbatov who will control with one touch and play someone in behind with his second, than give it to Rooney on the half way line and watch him run at the goal.
Berbatov doesn't slow down your football, he speeds it up, the only time he can't do this is when the team is playing the "leave Berbatov upfront and refuse to go forwards tactics", which they did on several occasions last season.
You might talk about his record compared to the **** strikers, but why is it you and most other UTD fans bang on and on about Rooney and the other work he does for the team. Welbeck and particularly Hernandez are rubbish outside of the box, Berbatov is BRILLIANT outside the box and playing creative football, he does SO much more than just score goals, which he also does exceptionally well. You're ignoring when/how most of his appearances happened, he had 5 starts , 7 sub appearances and got 7 goals, Welbeck started 23 games AND made 9 sub appearances and got 9 goals.
Berbatov played 521 minutes with 7 goals, Welbeck played on 2012 minutes, with 9 goals. Hernandez with 18 starts, 10 sub appearances, almost 1500 minutes got 10 goals.
Hernandez and Welbeck had the confidence of the manager AND the fans, Berbatov had neither, has had neither for 2 years.
So yes, 7 goals in 5 starts is actually pretty much amazing and exactly what you'd expect of a 30mil striker, as was his ability on the ball, vision, touch, passing, holding the ball, through balls, finishing, quality. The ONLY reason he didn't score 15+ goals is he played 521 minutes of football. It's even better when you consider the fans are against him, the manager has shown time and time again he has no confidence in him, he hasn't had a good run of games(though not surprisingly the best run of games he had with only one game missed produced the majority of his goals.... funny that). If he had the confidence of manager and fans, if people didn't give him a hard time for not running around aimlessly but "looking" effective, and if he started the majority of games he'd have been one of your two best players last year.
Dear lord that's some opinion you got their son for an Arsenal fan.
If you wan't to be taken seriously or your point of view taken seriously at least have the ******* decency to speak to people in a ******* polite manner instead of being so damned rude !!!!!!
All that claptrap about players not running faster than the ball is nothing more than stating the bloody obvious, so well done
The
fact is when we are counter attacking and the ball is slid between the CB and FB Berbatov should be making those runs to pick the ball up.
He does not. Watch Paul Scholes, he very rarely plays the ball to feet. He plays it infront of the attacker so they can run onto it, be it our wingers or full backs. The same as Carrick, Rooney, Ronaldo etc. Berbatov constantly wants the ball to feet. It's not our game to do that. But I guess you knew all that watching all the United games and collating all the stats you have.
The Other Fact is that no Unted fan is against him as you suggest, they want him to do well. What United fans are against is his languid style constant shoulder shrugging if the ball is not played to his feet and his general air of not giving a **** as the game goes on around him. The right player without undoubted talent and questionable attitude and application.
And RVP being
Miles better than Rooney, please have a word with yourself. To go down your route of spouting stats ad nauseum, check out RVP vs Rooney and there is probably a Fly's Foreskin in it
RVP - 356 Club appearances, 154 goals, 72 assists (Goal Ratio 0.432)
International - 68 Apps - 29 Goals
Wayne Rooney 443 Club Appearances 199 Goals (Goal Ratio 0.449)
International 75 Apps - 29 Goals
I am guessing RVP is
miles better because
He has won Zero titles to Waynes 4 - Bad Example
He has won Zero League Cups to Waynes 2 - Bad Example
He has won 1 Community Shield to Waynes 3 - Bad Example
He has won 0 Champions Leagues to Waynes 1 - Bad Example
He has won 0 FIFA World Club Championships to Waynes 1 - Bad Example
He has won 0 Goals of the Season - to Wayne's 3 - Bad Example
Premier League team of the Season 1 - Wayne 3 - Bad Example
FA Fan's Player of the year 1 - Wayne 2
Goal of the month 3 - Wayne 6
Not doing to well at the RVP is
Miles better than Rooney game am I
Arsenal Player of the year 4 - Shucks you finally got me.
So to suggest he is
Miles better is utter Poppycock. But I guess a very average side have just carried him to all them accolades, awards and Trophys. Haters gonna Hate