Free School due to open in September 2012 ‘teaches creation as a scientific theory’

AGD said:
Religious school in wanting to teach its religion shock! :eek:

It's a religious school teaching its beliefs in assemblies which isn't exactly new. The confusing thing is why faith schools are allowed in the first place? :confused: It's just the state paying a load of religious people to brainwash kids. All schools should be 100% secular so that kids can grow up with an open mind about all faiths and faith positions.
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I think they get the same local authority funding as everyone else, the church pays extra into the funds and then teaches their particular religion, which would be why for example a roman catholic school is likely to be a better school due to extra funding.
 
YEC would allude that all scientists and every branch of science that has ever been since science became a thing, are liars behind a giant conspiracy to hide the truth of YEC. Science would allude that all powerful, all knowing God and every derivative of God's worshipped since worshipping God's became a thing, are liars who have done their damnedest to conceal and hide YEC behind a very convincing curtain of deceit and lies.
 
Creationism has no place in any science class... mind you, neither does the global warming hypothesis if we are teaching the scientific method properly.
 
I don't see the problem here, parents mostly get to choose where their children get educated, so what if they want to send them to a faith school?

The point of school is to educate children on a range of subjects, why shouldn't religion be one of those subjects?
This thread is just running with the usual theme of "we hate all religion so let's stop other people living their lives"

99% of what you learn is school is forgotten away, you lot must think it is brainwashing or something.
 
Isn't a creationist who believes God aided in the process of evolution just completely half arsed? So basically you know the other side is right but you still want to think you go to heaven when you die :p?
 
bitslice said:
I don't see the problem here, parents mostly get to choose where their children get educated, so what if they want to send them to a faith school?
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Giving a child a bad education is just as bad, if not worse than giving them no education. It's essentially cruelty to teach Creationism as science.

bitslice said:
99% of what you learn is school is forgotten away
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Maybe in your case.
 
You know, the really bad thing about this, even if i am not religious, i realise the importance of family with religion and this just seems like changing the responsibility of the family to do so.

It happened with Sex Ed, now parents just ignore it mostly and let schools do the teaching, plenty of other examples, but this is a good one.

Yet people wonder why children right now seem more rebellious? Their parents have done zilch parenting, I wish we would stop passing off the government or whatever group as a viable alternative to family specific teaching areas.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
meh, weve had other faith schools for years, why the need now for this article?
People are free to believe what ever they want. the fact that the evolution is just a theory not scientific fact leads it into multiple levels of interpretation.
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You clearly don't understand what the word "theory" means.
 
Longbow said:
Well either "God" created humans or we evolved. They conflict, you can't have both.
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What spudbynight is trying to allude to is that despite the Christian establishments initial outright rejection of evolution and the subsequent decades trying to discredit it, they're now attempting a face saving u-turn.

However instead of giving any credit to the thousands of scientists who devoted lifetimes of hard study, sometimes under huge social pressure and personal ridicule, the "creationist" are now accepting of the theory but believe the process is orchestrated by god. Some may even try and argue that this is something they have always believed.

As for the school. Let them got on with it. In the bigger picture it makes no difference imo.
 
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If schools are allowed to teach the unique validity of Christianity, Judaism or Islam, then why not Creationism?

No school should ever be allowed to teach the discriminatory idea that any one religion is superior to or more valid than another.
 
As long as it is not taught as science I don't mind if they teach religion. Science is based on facts that can be predicted, tested and proven unlike creationism which requires faith. As long as science is taught and children are given the skills and knowledge to come to their own views on creationism or any aspect of religion then I'm fine with that. If a school was to teach any part of religion instead of a proper science eduction, then I would have issue with it.
 
StriderX said:
I doubt that is what he was meaning.

But since you said it, science to a lot of scientist's can be seen as a religion, especially if you are of the Pantheism group.
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Then what does he mean?

If he means evolution is equal to creationism, then he would be wrong.

Science is not a religion, regardless of what some say, anyone who thinks that needs to look up the word religion.
 
Longbow said:
Giving a child a bad education is just as bad, if not worse than giving them no education. It's essentially cruelty to teach Creationism as science.
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This isn't ruining their education, it's just giving it a religious slant. Do you imagine they will spend the rest of their lives not ever learning about evolution?

All this guff about child abuse and brainwashing is hysterical nonsense.

Fact is every one of us sat through RE but maybe 0.001% has any remaining interest or belief in the subject. It's pretty much the same for children who actually went to a faith school.


Maybe in your case.
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I'm so glad your Fuzzy Felt skills are still awesome, personally I dumped all the O level stuff to make way for something a bit more advanced.



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God, why am I wasting my time, that link is from the freaky humanist association, they are a right bunch of nutters who have a major chip on their shoulder about what other people choose to believe in, they are practically a cult themselves. I've never seen such a group so intent on creating hate for other people who were busy minding their own business. Talk about ramming their stupid agenda down everyone's throats... :rolleyes:
 
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Longbow said:
Then what does he mean?

If he means evolution is equal to creationism, then he would be wrong.

Science is not a religion, regardless of what some say, anyone who thinks that needs to look up the word religion.
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When you look far back to the latin usage.

It comes out as Religio Relego, Religio being obvious, the belief in a higher power.

Relego means basically to find out the truth, study and gather constantly from what i can tell (sort of like an early scientific method).

It may have been corrupted by man over the past 2 millennia, but that does not mean it is meaningless, ofcourse i am not saying science should be deemed like a religion, but some people might like to have a religious aspect of it.
 
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bitslice said:
Fact is every one of us sat through RE but maybe 0.001% has any remaining interest or belief in the subject. It's pretty much the same for children who actually went to a faith school.
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I don't remember my R.E. teacher describing creationism as a scientific theory. It was merely "This what Christians believe."
 
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