i5 2500k vs i5 3570k (Gaming)

coughs · 24 Jul 2012 at 00:44

Hey guys,

I was wondering what's better for gaming now and the future the i5 2500k or i5 3570k? I will be using the p8z77-i-deluxe mini itx motherboard.

Thanks

Jay85 · 24 Jul 2012 at 00:48

3570K if you have a Z77 board which i see you have so best take advantage of that PCI-E 3.0... thats if you have a 7 series AMD or 6 series Nvidia card

valkynaz · 24 Jul 2012 at 00:54

The 3570k will be better.

PCI-E 3.0 support, higher IPS, more powerful iGPU, better memory controller, less power consumption.

Only downside is that the 3570k produces more heat compared to the 2500k and thus you may have higher temperatures when overclocking.

coughs · 24 Jul 2012 at 12:18

Thanks for the replies yes I will be using a GTX 670 but what sort of future will it have in regards to gaming? and how likely can I achieve 4.5ghz on water?

ltnmzh · 24 Jul 2012 at 16:10

From another perspective, it's illogical to waste your existing investment (Z77 + GTX 670) by going 2500k.

Are you saving more on CPU than your lose on Z77 vs Z68, GTX670 on PCIe2 vs PCIe3?

Are you geting better perf/price ratio with 2500k?

jms198 · 24 Jul 2012 at 16:29

IB produces more heat over a smaller area or the paste on the heat spreader insulates it better? I don't think the chip itself produces more heat; the lower power draw surely proves this.

coughs · 24 Jul 2012 at 19:10

Does this look fine?

Bitfenix Prodigy

Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe
256GB Crucial M4
Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB
Fanless powersupply?? (recommendations)
GTX 670

BitFenix Recon Internet-Connected Fan Controller
XSPC RX240 120mm Radiator
Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1850 RPM X2
XSPC RayStorm CPU Block
XSPC Razor GTX 670

XSPC HighFlex Hose Blue 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD
EK PSC Compression Fitting 13mm 3/8"

Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L

blackoctagon · 27 Jul 2012 at 10:08

Jay85 said:
3570K if you have a Z77 board which i see you have so best take advantage of that PCI-E 3.0... thats if you have a 7 series AMD or 6 series Nvidia card

And how exactly is PCIe 3.0 an advantage for gaming?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/18/pci_express_20_vs_30_gpu_gaming_performance_review/14

I agree that he should go for the 3570k, but that's solely because he already has a Z77 board. Given that IB runs a lot hotter than SB, I still find it hard to recommend anything more than the 2500k and a Hyper 212 Evo for gaming rigs (for non-hardcore overclockers)

covenantuk · 27 Jul 2012 at 10:48

coughs said:
Thanks for the replies yes I will be using a GTX 670 but what sort of future will it have in regards to gaming? and how likely can I achieve 4.5ghz on water?

4.2ghz-4.4ghz is relatively easy on air with a good cooler. As long as you get a decent Ivy chip I'd think 4.5ghz is definitely achievable on water.

covenantuk · 27 Jul 2012 at 10:54

blackoctagon said:
Given that IB runs a lot hotter than SB, I still find it hard to recommend anything more than the 2500k and a Hyper 212 Evo for gaming rigs (for non-hardcore overclockers)

Only true to an extent, if you're not a hardcore overclocker then 4.4ghz is still relatively easy at sensible temperatures (I'm using an Antec620 which is hardly high-end). Ivy only starts to gets warm above 4.5ghz from my experience equating to 4.6-4.7ghz on SB.
Given that the current batches SB seem to be struggling to exceed 4.7ghz what are you gaining from buying one? 4C-5C difference? Hardly worth worrying about imo.

...but yes if you have a Z77 board grab IB.

Jay85 · 27 Jul 2012 at 11:48

blackoctagon said:
And how exactly is PCIe 3.0 an advantage for gaming?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/18/pci_express_20_vs_30_gpu_gaming_performance_review/14

I agree that he should go for the 3570k, but that's solely because he already has a Z77 board. Given that IB runs a lot hotter than SB, I still find it hard to recommend anything more than the 2500k and a Hyper 212 Evo for gaming rigs (for non-hardcore overclockers)

Future proof, it might not be at its full potential now but give it a few years when technology catches up we'll be seeing components taking advantage of pci-e 3.0.

blackoctagon · 27 Jul 2012 at 18:09

covenantuk said:
Given that the current batches SB seem to be struggling to exceed 4.7ghz.

I...hadn't heard about that??!?! True, my 2500k is only at 4.7GHz but I've been putting that down to my rather budget cooler, the fact that I'm a newb at overclocking, and my personal reluctance to push my temps beyond 70 degrees at load. (my CPU was purchased in Feb, by the way)

jennidc · 27 Jul 2012 at 22:41

Any advantage in overclocking the 2500k has due to less heat is negated by the IB chip being faster clock for clock - so you may as well get IB as its drawers less power.

TBH though either of these chips will plough through any current game/application

MADMAN · 29 Jul 2012 at 23:12

proberly still not see much difference in real time

Justintime · 29 Jul 2012 at 23:58

Jay85 said:
Future proof, it might not be at its full potential now but give it a few years when technology catches up we'll be seeing components taking advantage of pci-e 3.0.

At which point you won't really be using the same board and cpu will you?

MADMAN · 30 Jul 2012 at 00:19

tech is always gone in 2-3 years easily...

yannis76 · 5 Aug 2012 at 11:31

Having only a i2400 I would say even this cpu is adequate for 1920x1280 gaming at full settings (paired with a Z77 mb and a 7970 TOP). Persoanlly I am still trying to find a real reason to upgrade to IB.

StonedPenguin · 5 Aug 2012 at 11:39

Using a PCI-E 3.0 GPU (670) on a P67 board with a 2500k, How much difference will a PCI-E 3.0 board/CPU make? (Gaming wise)

ubersonic · 5 Aug 2012 at 13:10

Im gonna disagree with everyone here

buy the cheaper one.

If the 2500K is noticeably cheaper where your ordering form then its the best option, at stock the 3570K performs like a 2500K with a 200mhz OC, but when overclocked the 2500K will reach higher performance with the same heat.

If you only care about gaming then the extra features of IB over Sandy are not really relevant because having a better Intel HD GPU for encoding wont be of benefit and neither will PCI-E 3.0

StonedPenguin said:
Using a PCI-E 3.0 GPU (670) on a P67 board with a 2500k, How much difference will a PCI-E 3.0 board/CPU make? (Gaming wise)

None whatsoever, they haven't made a single card yet that can max out the PCI-E 2.0 bus yet, PCI-E 3.0 is just for future proofing at this point.

Zaruz · 5 Aug 2012 at 13:33

ubersonic said:
Im gonna disagree with everyone here buy the cheaper one.

If the 2500K is noticeably cheaper where your ordering form then its the best option, at stock the 3570K performs like a 2500K with a 200mhz OC, but when overclocked the 2500K will reach higher performance with the same heat.

Except the fact that all the new 2500K's don't overclock that greatly. If it was an old batch 2500K then sure, but with the current ones that's just wrong.