Google Fiber

PermaBanned · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:52

http://fiber.google.com/about/

Now before you get your hopes up, Kansas City first. Presumably anywhere other than the US in many years time, if ever. But still, Google breaking in to internet service providing is a pretty big thing. And once you decipher the marketing bull they might well be on to something. Looking at the packages it could breathe life back into the more or less flop that has been Google TV.

If this is successful then it adds a whole new dimension to the 'Google Empire'. They could basically own the internet. Now i know a lot of people have concerns about the amount of power Google has, and has amassed in such a small period of time. Personally i'm not too worried, although i would much prefer it if there was a clear data tracking protocol that meant that any information gathered couldn't be used to trace back to the individual themselves. To me they seem to be one of the few sensible companies out there, providing some of the best services for free whilst still managing to stuff their pockets with money, and undercutting as well as outperforming on a lot of their paid products. Relevant XKCD.

Skillmister · 26 Jul 2012 at 21:59

Sounds immense. Will be interesting how it takes off in the initial stages but i can see it being something big.

estebanrey · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:02

Will it be true fiber [sic] as in FTTH or that bottle-necked fibre (FTTC) version we have here currently which Virgin Media sell?

RomanNose · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:04

estebanrey said:
Will it be true fiber [sic] as in FTTH or that bottle-necked fibre (FTTC) version we have here currently which Virgin Media sell?

FTTH.
It would be pretty hard to get 1gbps with FTTC.

estebanrey · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:07

RomanNose said:
FTTH.
It would be pretty hard to get 1gbps with FTTC.

Coolio, they've fitted that here in a village in my region. Lucky bar stewards...

T345 · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:08

Next is telephone line and mobile phone coverage

All google for me!

Marky · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:09

Sounds good to me... but how are they going to deliver 1000MBPs download speeds? :confused:

Sounds like they're advertising too much too soon to me... But I may be wrong

OhEsEcks · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:10

The conspiracy theorist in me doesn't like this.

RomanNose · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:12

Marky said:
Sounds good to me... but how are they going to deliver 1000MBPs download speeds?

Sounds like they're advertising too much too soon to me... But I may be wrong

Not really.
I knew someone in latvia and he could get 2GBPs with his fibre and he was limited by his network equipment on his local side.

Chris1712 · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:12

Very interesting! On a side-note, that website is just fantastic lol. Basic pretty and informative, sounds silly but it's brilliant!

Marky · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:13

RomanNose said:
Not really.
I knew someone in latvia and he could get 2GBPs with his fibre and he was limited by his network equipment on his local side.

Haha awesome

OhEsEcks · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:16

Moses said:
They'll be harvesting ALL your internet habits, not just stuff done through Google services. BE AFRAID!!11!twelve!!11

Google is already a Neuromancer-esque zaibatsu. Personally I like the idea of towns and cities laying their own infrastructure (or wifi) that belongs to the city. But most telecoms put an end to that via various threats.

Sin_Chase · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:20

1Gbit/Sec Down 100Mbit/Sec Up is being rolled out throughout Jersey at the moment and I have already started planning local side gear to handle that much bandwidth. It's not cheap if you want to do your own firewall/routing!

That xkcd comic is one of the reasons I changed to account specific passwords a few years ago when signign up to some random forum to download an attachment and realising it could be dodgy as and they now have my email/accompanying password.

DJMK4 · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:30

Sin_Chase said:
1Gbit/Sec Down 100Mbit/Sec Up is being rolled out throughout Jersey at the moment and I have already started planning local side gear to handle that much bandwidth. It's not cheap if you want to do your own firewall/routing!

That xkcd comic is one of the reasons I changed to account specific passwords a few years ago when signign up to some random forum to download an attachment and realising it could be dodgy as and they now have my email/accompanying password.

Crazy! You would certainly need a good firewall / router.

Wouldn't want to pick up the bill either, cost is crazy on some Units

Marky · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:35

Apparently, you'll get 5MB broadband for free. For 1000MB it's 70$. That's still cheap as chips in comparison to what we currently get

Sin_Chase · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:39

DJMK4 said:
Crazy! You would certainly need a good firewall / router.

Wouldn't want to pick up the bill either, cost is crazy on some Units

Corporate stuff is expensive.

I'm looking at an i3/i5 rig to handle it, all in I reckon it's doable for a couple of hundred quid and a pfSense or similar install. They supply you with a wirespeed capable firewall/router but it's a bit pants as far as I can see!

Marky · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:40

Oh and apparently it'll chew up 10GB files in under eighty seconds :eek:

The future looks good

OhEsEcks · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:41

Any word on download/upload limits with it? There's a lot of stuff about the plans, pricing, storage, the individual hardware you can use and how wonderful it is to be connected to google all the time… but there's nothing on data limits. At least I can't see it.

Marky · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:42

OhEsEcks said:
Any word on download/upload limits with it? There's a lot of stuff about the plans, pricing, storage, the individual hardware you can use and how wonderful it is to be connected to google all the time… but there's nothing on data limits. At least I can't see it.

From what I've been told there are no limits. But that is bound to change

Brookert · 26 Jul 2012 at 22:44

After you've signed the t/c's, they will probably hit you with the dreaded 'fair usage policy'