Disparity between photoshop/windows viewer and browser?

Ksanti · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:00

I'm using Firefox as it's running my calibrated ICC profile, but I'm getting different results from my photoshop window and the uploaded image.

Photoshop - Image as edited
Windows browser thumbnail - oversaturated reds
Windows Picture Gallery - as edited
Imgur/flickr - oversaturated reds

I have Photoshop set to work in my calibrated ICC profile under the CTRL+SHIFT+K colour settings, and I've embedded the colour profile in saving the jpeg, but the thumbnail and firefox image still keep looking deeply over saturated in reds (this being down to my XPS 15's wide-gamut display, but my ICC profile should supposedly deal with this).

Any help? It's really bugging me particularly with colour-critical work, and it's hard to check with people what the image looks like for them as even screenshots will end up displaying as different colours to what I see in person.

EDIT: I've gone back and applied the new profile to the existing documents and it's helped me bring photoshop and firefox in line, but now windows picture gallery image looks really undersaturated and dead - almost like it's applying my calibration profile to the image twice?

An Exception · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:05

Set photoshop to 'monitor colour'

Ksanti · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:15

An Exception said:
Set photoshop to 'monitor colour'

Have done that but now the Windows Picture Gallery image is way too undersaturated.

It's a less severe problem, definitely, but it can be annoying as I tend to use the program as a final proofing program after I'm done editing to decide which I want to upload

An Exception · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:17

what colour space are you using? Adobe RGB 1998?

Devrij · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:17

I know photobucket doesn't respect colour profiles and defaults to sRGB, is flickr the same? Presumably thumbnails aren't going to read and expand colour profiles though?

An Exception · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:25

I just use sRGB, seems everything can read it properly.

Ksanti · 28 Jul 2012 at 23:26

okay after some fiddling around I think I've got it sorted for the moment - all of them seem to match up to the right colours bar the little windows thumbnails, but I'm not too fussed about those

Yeah I use sRGB to save my images from photoshop but use my monitor RGB the whole way through the working process (Lightroom export -> Photoshop working profile) otherwise everything starts bumping itself around and getting mucked up it seems.

Philip Perfect · 29 Jul 2012 at 06:54

Ksanti said:
Yeah I use sRGB to save my images from photoshop but use my monitor RGB the whole way through the working process (Lightroom export -> Photoshop working profile) otherwise everything starts bumping itself around and getting mucked up it seems.

I'm sure that's not the right way to do things. There are really two things going on here. For images themselves, they should be associated with a colour space - aRGB, sRGB etc. Output devices - monitors, printers and so on, are associated with a colour profile, which explain to your computer how to manipulate the image to makes the colours look correct when displayed/printed.

See this for some more on how to set up your system.

Ksanti · 29 Jul 2012 at 11:15

But if I associate the exported image from lightroom as sRGB then open it in PhotoShop, where my working profile is monitorRGB, PhotoShop bins the sRGB profile and gives me a really boosted reds monitor RGB, which isn't good.

An Exception · 29 Jul 2012 at 11:25

Have you set or calibrated your monitor to an sRGB colour space? if so monitor RGB should = sRGB.
Images in PS/LR should look the same when in a web browser.
Do you have your camera set to sRGB?
Do you open images is PS/LR as sRGB?

If you do, everything should look very close.

Philip Perfect · 29 Jul 2012 at 21:23

Ksanti said:
But if I associate the exported image from lightroom as sRGB then open it in PhotoShop, where my working profile is monitorRGB, PhotoShop bins the sRGB profile and gives me a really boosted reds monitor RGB, which isn't good.

Image colour space should be sRGB. Photoshop colour should be set to sRGB also. Your monitor profile is set up in Control Panel -> Colour Management, or your profiling tool might have an app that sets the monitor profile for you. The monitor profile and the image/photoshop colour spaces should be treated as being entirely separate

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Ksanti · 29 Jul 2012 at 22:42

Philip Perfect said:
Image colour space should be sRGB. Photoshop colour should be set to sRGB also. Your monitor profile is set up in Control Panel -> Colour Management, or your profiling tool might have an app that sets the monitor profile for you. The monitor profile and the image/photoshop colour spaces should be treated as being entirely separate .

If I work through sRGB the whole time the final image ends up with my original problem of being disgustingly oversaturated. I've got a work process that works now.