Climate sceptic does science, gets convinced

Mr Jack

Mr Jack

Mr Jack

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Basically this guy set up a project to generate rival data to the existing climate analysis outfits and ended up confirming what they were all saying. To his credit, he's had the cajones to accept what his evidence says.

I await the usual response from the our resident denialists.
 
While my understanding is limited, I thought it was widely accepted that yes, the planet is warming. However the argument always seems to be over the cause of the increase.

Is it us? is it a natural cycle of warming and cooling?
 
AHarvey said:
While my understanding is limited, I thought it was widely accepted that yes, the planet is warming. However the argument always seems to be over the cause of the increase.

Is it us? is it a natural cycle of warming and cooling?
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If I recall correctly, the main constant was the amount of carbon dioxide/greenhouse gases linked towards the heat rise.

If the theory is correct, we will continue to get warmer as China & the rest of the developed world continue to expand & start burning coal to generate electricity.

While the temperature does indeed fluctuate, it's the speed in which it's changes which is alarming.

1.5 degrees over the period is question (250 years I believe) is incredibly fast, when you think of the billions of years time frame our planet has been around.

Too much negative incentives exist on both the anti/pro lobby (each one trying to promote whatever fuel source they wish to sell).

The government should be funding this kind of research to eliminate the potential for bias (from both sides) - in a sense of the data & the final interpretation.
 
Well, from your article:

"While this doesn't prove that global warming is caused by human greenhouse gases, it is currently the best explanation we have found, and sets the bar for alternative explanations."
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This follows the pattern of previous Best results, none of which have yet been published in peer-reviewed journals.
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Prof Judith Curry, a climatologist at the Georgia Institute of Technology who runs a blog popular with climate sceptics and who is a consulting member of the Best team, told the Guardian that the method used to attribute the warming to human emissions was "way over-simplistic and not at all convincing in my opinion". She added: "I don't think this question can be answered by the simple curve fitting used in this paper, and I don't see that their paper adds anything to our understanding of the causes of the recent warming."
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So, an independent research team did some research, which has not been peer-reviewed or published in any accredited journal, with questionable methodology as claimed by its own members, and itself admitting that they can't prove anything but essentially "here is our best guess".

What was the question again?
 
Number_25 said:
Why do people who disagree with the fact that climate change is a thing still exist?
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Name me one thing that everyone agrees on :D

The science behind climate is extremely complex, and climate itself is somewhat unpredictable. While the general consensus is man made climate change exists, there's enough uncertainty in the predictions to allow for disagreements.
 
Blue160 said:
Name me one thing that everyone agrees on :D

The science behind climate is extremely complex, and climate itself is somewhat unpredictable. While the general consensus is man made climate change exists, there's enough uncertainty in the predictions to allow for disagreements.
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This. A good time for computing though, all those climate models need more power as complexity increases. :)
 
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