I do love it when parents just sit there and ignore the crying and bawling coming from their little spawn. I don't quite understand why parents think they have the right to let their child behave however the hell they like. You chose to have the damn thing so bloody well deal with it and try and make everyone elses flight a little more bearable.
Long Haul flights with babies.......
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I do love it when parents just sit there and ignore the crying and bawling coming from their little spawn. I don't quite understand why parents think they have the right to let their child behave however the hell they like. You chose to have the damn thing so bloody well deal with it and try and make everyone elses flight a little more bearable.
If you can sit near a large group of 14/15 year old schoolgirls on a shool trip they will also be easily entertained by babies and will happily pass baby amongst themselves for a good while. This happened to us on the return journey.. one of them even swapped seats to sit next to us... (these 3 or 4 were already entertained in the Lobby area and then happened to be allocated the row in front when we boarded the aircraft)
quite unlikely on a flight to Aus though
quite unlikely on a flight to Aus though
We are moving to Sydney - so its not a trip I am doing for the lulz. Would (and have) holiday more locally until hes a bit older.
Thanks for the advice from some of you though. Will definitely make sure we take enough milk and already have a carrier which ill use to stroll around the plane at any opportunity.
Unfortunately hes quite a well developed 6 month old and is already crawling and requiring constant entertainment. So he wont just sit there and relax for 23 hours.
Who are you flying with and where is your stop over. Singapore and Singapore airlines are both fab if you have a baby. I found a great blog from someone regarding flying to oz with a baby. I'll see if I can find it.
Think of it as a normal day so you should get a good 12 hour sleep at "night", plus naps.
Can your little boy sleep through noise and lights? I find my boy sleeps better in the wrap if its a noisy enviroment.
Ignore other people on the flight. The more stressed out you get the more your boy will respond to it. The likelihood is you'll never see these people again so it doesnt matter if they think you are the best or worst parent ever.
Hoping for something like this to happen. We pass him around quite often at social events. Lately hes got a bit more attached to us though - so its not working quite as well as it used to.
Malaysia
Hi Loopylou thanks for your other post as well. Flying Malaysia and the stopover is KL but just for 90minutes.
Hi Loopylou thanks for your other post as well. Flying Malaysia and the stopover is KL but just for 90minutes.
Of the 66 flights I have taken in 2012 so far, at least half have had babies on board. Yes it's annoying and I don't enjoy being stuck beside a crying baby. I have been in that situation more times than most of the contributors to this thread. As said above, unless you are mentally retarded, it would be fairly acceptable to tell you to shut up.
If I need to get sleep on the flight, I will either use an upgrade instrument or pay the price to upgrade if I really need it. There might only be a curtain separating cabins but the noise doesn't travel forward much. The seat design in most business/first cabins can block out a lot of ambient noise too. If I'm not willing to pay the price, I'll sit down the back and take whatever the other passengers can throw at me, be it a crying baby, poor personal hygiene or an over-entitled **** complaining about silly things that nobody can control.
You must remember that you are in a confined space with hundreds of other people. At some point, some of these people are going to do something to annoy you. Comparing adults to babies is silly. Adults can be responsible for their own behaviour. Babies cannot.
It's part of flying long haul economy. You get what you pay for. It's why people spend thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of pounds on a first or business class ticket for something that lasts a matter of hours.
I can't speak for all airlines but in my experience, young children are usually only excluded from international first/business cabins. Domestic premium cabins are a joke anyway.
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As other posters have recommended, try and get the seat at the front of the cabin with the bassinet (sp), you may actually be forced to take this seat by the airline.
This has two big advantages, 1st it gives your baby somewhere to sleep. Secondly, passengers with babies will normally be given priority for those seats and the airline may even bump another passenger out of them. Any passenger with half a brain will avoid that whole area when checking in if they cant stand crying babies. If they choose not to, then it's their own fault for being dumb or checking in late. Either way you have no reason to feel guilty if your little one does not settle. Naturally you'll always get the odd gimp that books a sest next to the bassinets because of the extra leg room, only to look horrified when someone with a baby sits next to them. But you cant plan for dumb-assery.
I've travelled quite extensively in business class with BA, Brunei Airlines, Air France and Singapore Airlines. A business class ticket is certaintly no guarantee that there will not be small children. I've only been in First once (free upgrade) and there was indeed a Baby in the cabin, this was with Air France. The only way therefore to absolutely guarantee a child free flight is to either charter a private plane or book all the seats on the flight. Alternativelty just chill, get some good ear plugs, drink a few beers and relax.
This has two big advantages, 1st it gives your baby somewhere to sleep. Secondly, passengers with babies will normally be given priority for those seats and the airline may even bump another passenger out of them. Any passenger with half a brain will avoid that whole area when checking in if they cant stand crying babies. If they choose not to, then it's their own fault for being dumb or checking in late. Either way you have no reason to feel guilty if your little one does not settle. Naturally you'll always get the odd gimp that books a sest next to the bassinets because of the extra leg room, only to look horrified when someone with a baby sits next to them. But you cant plan for dumb-assery.
I've travelled quite extensively in business class with BA, Brunei Airlines, Air France and Singapore Airlines. A business class ticket is certaintly no guarantee that there will not be small children. I've only been in First once (free upgrade) and there was indeed a Baby in the cabin, this was with Air France. The only way therefore to absolutely guarantee a child free flight is to either charter a private plane or book all the seats on the flight. Alternativelty just chill, get some good ear plugs, drink a few beers and relax.
Have to agree. What a complete bunch of moaners. Man up. Kids/babies need to travel too. Get over it.
Well said.
In-ear noise isolating earphones are very effective for screaming babies. Noise cancelling over-ear models aren't quite so good for it.
I also find a few drinks with a Nytol chaser does the trick. You'll be dead to the world for hours
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Yep, in this case price reflected the product, thats why i don't like to break my trips down into too many individual flights, you usually end up with a poor product even though you've paid good money.
I don't mind so much as long as the parent seems to be making at least a token effort to calm their child rather than sitting there ignoring the whole thing.
You might have learned to zone out when your little one is whinging but people without kids haven't. Most children can be pacified by their parents if they put the time and effort in. Thats all we ask, that you try to keep him quiet. Its called common courtesy and although your child might not understand that, you certainly do so if you can't be arsed to try and calm the child then you are being an inconsiderate ****.
You might have learned to zone out when your little one is whinging but people without kids haven't. Most children can be pacified by their parents if they put the time and effort in. Thats all we ask, that you try to keep him quiet. Its called common courtesy and although your child might not understand that, you certainly do so if you can't be arsed to try and calm the child then you are being an inconsiderate ****.
Put the baby in kennels, some kennels give you are discount for 2nd pets etc so it might work out quite cheap if you leafy own a dog or cat.
If you must fly with the baby then wrap in lots of blankets and bubble wrap and put it in a hard-sided suitcase, that will protect it for the long flight in the hold.
If you must fly with the baby then wrap in lots of blankets and bubble wrap and put it in a hard-sided suitcase, that will protect it for the long flight in the hold.
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Excellent - sorted. All you need to do is find a group of schoolkids on a field trip to Malaysia
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Put babby in a suitcase.
Don't worry, if you lose it you can make another one.
Don't worry, if you lose it you can make another one.
I think I die a little inside when I board a plane with a crying baby on the flight. It's particularly annoying as I fly on the little RJ100s/Embraer Es out of LCY a lot, and one crying baby anywhere on the plane may as well be screaming in to your ear. Fortunately, LCY doesn't have too many family travellers on the morning/evening flights. I just wish they'd let me listen to music during take off and landing (Swiss seem to be OK for landing - though the other week my iPod flew down the plane as we touched down, which the crew weren't particularly amused about..)
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