Worried about the welfare of another

anything that used to be slightly medical used to be closed instantly now its like yeah lets talk about it when no one or not many are qualified to talk abut it .

just lock medical threads instantly tbh
 
I think if she wanted to kill herself she'd be dead.

She's just in need of a bit of attention from the right people.

Doctor EdGey
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Err no. People have breakdowns in many ways that don't include the desire to kill themselves, indeed self harming is very different to wanting to commit suicide.

This is a very broad and complex area that tbh I only touch the surface of and this thread is full of people who just don't know what they are talking about.
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So regarding the second part of my post that you removed from your quotation, do you or do you not condone phoning up 999 to ask for a bit of advice, despite there not being an actual emergency situation?

That's the crux of my point, phoning 999 to ask who your self harming friend should talk to for help because her GP is being unhelpful is a wholly inappropriate use for 999.

You can argue the semantics of what exactly does or does not constitute someone trying to kill themselves but that's just skirting the original point that I made.
 
I have a friend who self harmed and I can't and hopefully won't understand the feelings needed to do that to yourself. I think he even went quite deep into his thighs :(

Drugs are involved, drugs from the doctors apparently don't work and a combination of no sleep/no sleep pattern due to being unemployed and bored don't help him. I've distanced myself from him as I can't be doing with that around me to be honest.

Maybe I'm just daft but if I wanted to kill myself I would probably do it first time. Can't go wrong hanging yourself or an OD might be the easier way out as you can't stop yourself once they are down I guess.
 
As someone that has grown up with this kind of behaviour in his life from a parent, including the multiple suicide attempts, turn your back on it and ignore it.

I know, it makes me sound like a complete and utter **** but in the long run, it's what is best for you. You said in your opening post " Everytime I try to confront it she seems to either jump offline or ignore. I've tried to build her up and try to help the best I can but it does not seem to be working."

You don't know what is really going on. People this messed up in the head can lie, exaggerate and fabricate all sorts of stuff. You seem to care more than she does about it.

It sounds like you've done your fair share of trying, so don't feel ashamed at turning your back on it. It's between her and her doctors.
 
Either she's going to some terrible doctors OR she's attention seeking.

They'd practically throw it at her if she said she wanted help with things like what the OP says.
 
Kenai said:
So regarding the second part of my post that you removed from your quotation, do you or do you not condone phoning up 999 to ask for a bit of advice, despite there not being an actual emergency situation?

That's the crux of my point, phoning 999 to ask who your self harming friend should talk to for help because her GP is being unhelpful is a wholly inappropriate use for 999.

You can argue the semantics of what exactly does or does not constitute someone trying to kill themselves but that's just skirting the original point that I made.
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It's not about asking for advice from the 999 service, it's about calling them if there is an immediate situation where someone could come to harm. If someone is self harming but has no intention to kill themselves then I do believe that constitutes immediate harm.
 
I just turned 33, but when I was 16, I started cutting myself. I didn't tell anyone and I wore long sleeve shirts so nobody would know. I didn't know how to express my emotions, so I would bottle everything up inside until I couldn't contain it anymore and my way of 'emptying' the bottle was to cut myself.

I started off doing it only occasionally, but it wasn't that long before my 'bottle' was filling up so quickly that I was doing it every couple days. It was never about getting attention, it was about trying to cope.

Someone earlier said that if someone really wants to kill themselves, they will do so successfully and I have to agree with them. I tried to kill myself once, but I was only half serious about it. While I did swallow enough pills to kill myself, I did it when the chances of someone finding me were high. If I really wanted to die, I would have done it when I had no chance of someone finding me. (I ended up in hospital being force fed a disgusting thick black liquid made mostly of charcoal)

That was really the first time anyone knew that there was something wrong with me. I think it was my way of crying for help and it could be your friend's way also.

Speaking from experience, there are only two people who can 'fix' her and you aren't one of them. She needs to either sort this all out in her head herself, or she needs to seek psychiatric help. The most you can do is try and guide her to the help she needs.
 
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The mental health system in this country is a shambles. it seems tony have to kill yourself before they take you seriously or you pay for expensive private help.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
There are also mental health crisis teams that we can get in contact with.

So despite people saying don't call the Police, we do seem to patch the holes that the NHS has in this area.
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This. crisis teams liase with the police a LOT to carry out welfare checks.

Also, there is the S136's that the police deal with almost nightly around here!
 
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