I'd love RVP and Dembele as has been the case all along, who knows what's happening with the former and who knows if there's even interest in the latter. Cant believe we haven't sniffed about Sahin while Arsenal are getting him for nowt for a season, I know we dont generally give game time to other clubs players but I reckon he'll be a seriously good addition to the Arsenal
I said it before, Chelsea simply used us to get Benny back to form/fitness after a bad injury. Sahin is incredibly highly rated, he had a great season before going Real, and a team like Real doesn't have space to give someone 10 games to get back to preinjury form. Arsenal are being used(if we infact get him), its NOT in the interest of a team to potentially build an offence around a player for a season just to see him leave. A loan can help for a big team, more to cover an injury than to be the difference between winning/losing a league.
What do Utd do if they get Sahin, the team gets to the stage its 100% dependant on him not to dissimilar to Scholes for all their attacking play, then he goes back to Real to be first team? you're MUCH better off bringing in a long term player to build a team off. Not only will you be in the same situation 12 months from now, that assumes he's actually any good. Re-injury risk after big injuries is big, form isn't certain(otherwise Real wouldn't loan him). The fact is, if he's any good Real will keep him, if he's not Real will look to offload him next year and you won't want him after a poor year. The upside is all Real's.
Moura is daft money, the chance of getting him in on a huge wage and him being worth much more than £30mil in 5 years are miniscule, chances of him being worth nothing like 30mil are huge.
Utd would do much better with RVP, and buying him asap so he can train with them as long as possible before the season starts.
I don't get the fannying around to be honest. Maybe negotiate down 2-3mil in transfer fee.... the cost of a player missing preseason and not having preseason to find a home, settle a little, become friends before the pressure of the season kicks in is worth significantly more than a few million. I would also say the price normally increases due to desparation of the team buying than the price decreases due to the desparation of the team selling. If the club selling has money and no debt, the price rarely comes down, if the club buying has money, the price rarely comes down.
Arsenal screwed around all last transfer window and cost us HUGE in the first month of games, huge. Only Arteta ended up a remotely decent buy and even with him he looked FAR better after a 4-6 weeks than he did when he joined. If we got him 2 months earlier and he had a great preseason, worth more than saving a couple mil every time.