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I cant believe Levy wont buckle and sell Modric this summer, you cant keep an unhappy player against their will for longer than one season
 
How the **** is it not relevant? It is the exact reason we've been continually getting worse and doing ****?
I enjoy watching my team win, I complain to vent my frustration, pretty standard human behaviour.

It's not difficult to understand, what happened under previous owners and managers has no relevance on what the current owners and manager are doing. As I said, you may as well complain about Barnes not being replaced or Dalglish himself while you're at it.
 
I cant believe Levy wont buckle and sell Modric this summer, you cant keep an unhappy player against their will for longer than one season

i thought he would've gone by now but he hasn't and both parties are cutting it fine. the thing i can't understand is that PSG apparently said they would've paid what chelsea offered last season but modric didn't want to go to PSG and has his heart set on real.

i don't know what's going on anymore. if he can sort his attitude out, i'd love it if he stayed but if his heart isn't in it with us then sell him as it's tiresome but it doesn't seem to be upsetting the squad too much. we've had a decent pre-season and have signed 2 good players.

it could be a great next few season for spurs, i was hoping modric would want to help us build on things but he obviously thinks he's a step up from us.
 
Can Modric not just stand on the pitch and do very little? That would force them to sell him.

lol no, he couldn't really do that, could he as he'd be subbed and look like a child. modric needs to remember that acting in the way he has (disrespecting the club who pays your wages) is not a good look and potential clubs who want to sign him do take notice of this. berbatov was the last player to treat spurs badly and things didn't work out too rosey for him.
 
i don't see how you can think this...
Sure signings can go either way and you'll still get some good signings, but let's say you try to sign the next Ronaldo, nobody knows he's going to be the next Ronaldo but the player believes it and has a long term plan to end up at Real or Barca. Would you want him at Spurs for a few years, delivering a similar level of quality that Ronaldo did at Utd, but knowing he is going to move on. Or would you be happier just to miss out entirely because said player refuses to even consider playing for Spurs?

It's a fine line, every club deserves some loyalty and respect for a contract, but when the boss gets a reputation for getting in the way of a career, employees prefer to look elsewhere.
 
lol no, he couldn't really do that, could he as he'd be subbed and look like a child. modric needs to remember that acting in the way he has (disrespecting the club who pays your wages) is not a good look and potential clubs who want to sign him do take notice of this. berbatov was the last player to treat spurs badly and things didn't work out too rosey for him.

He could. If Levy isn't honouring an agreement, Spurs look just as stupid.

It's not as if people are offering nothing for him either, £30m+ are the reported bids. That would make him one of the most expensive midfielders ever.
 
Sure signings can go either way and you'll still get some good signings, but let's say you try to sign the next Ronaldo, nobody knows he's going to be the next Ronaldo but the player believes it and has a long term plan to end up at Real or Barca. .

i'm sure there's loads of players who believe they're going to be the next ronaldo? the player can believe it all they want, there's a massive difference between believing it and actually doing it. it's a risk.

there's also the fact of getting first team football. look at the options a team like city and chelsea have in midfield, do you believe modric or 'the next ronaldo' would be guarenteed a start?
 
tbh (and no disrespect to Spurs when I say this) if either Modric or Bale were smart they'd have one of the prerequisite's when they sign their new deals at Spurs is that they have a reasonable (say 30m) buyout inserted. No one is going to pay more for either but you can guarantee that sooner or later we're going to have the exact same transfer saga when Bale wants out
 
tbh (and no disrespect to Spurs when I say this) if either Modric or Bale were smart they'd have one of the prerequisite's when they sign their new deals at Spurs is that they have a reasonable (say 30m) buyout inserted. No one is going to pay more for either but you can guarantee that sooner or later we're going to have the exact same transfer saga when Bale wants out

If we had minimum fee release clauses as standard (In spain its the law) then all that would happen is clubs would slap massive buy out clauses on their players when new contracts were offered, and footballers, being the greedy little ****'s that they are will sign what ever is put in front of them so long as it gets them the weekly wage and signing on fee they want.

If Modric was stupid and greedy enough to sign a 6 year contract with Spuds, he is stupid and greedy enough to sign the same contract with a 50 million release clause in it.
 
If we had minimum fee release clauses as standard (In spain its the law) then all that would happen is clubs would slap massive buy out clauses on their players when new contracts were offered, and footballers, being the greedy little ****'s that they are will sign what ever is put in front of them so long as it gets them the weekly wage and signing on fee they want.

If Modric was stupid and greedy enough to sign a 6 year contract with Spuds, he is stupid and greedy enough to sign the same contract with a 50 million release clause in it.

exactly. it wouldn't resolve anything.
 
If Modric was stupid and greedy enough to sign a 6 year contract with Spuds, he is stupid and greedy enough to sign the same contract with a 50 million release clause in it.

At least if that is the reality of the situation it might then stop players throwing these hissy fits when they dont get their own way, if say Modric signed a contract that had a buyout of 40m attached to it and it comes to Chelsea/Real Madrid not willing to meet that figure it's no ones fault but his own that the move doesn't happen.
 
He looked quite decent last season (a lot better than Jarvis), shame for Wolves they couldn't hang onto him, exactly the type of player Wolves could have done with in the Championship

He's as good as Jarvis, easily, but has spent a lot of the last 2 years injured, which is a shame. If he can get back to his best, its a bargain.
 
At least if that is the reality of the situation it might then stop players throwing these hissy fits when they dont get their own way, if say Modric signed a contract that had a buyout of 40m attached to it and it comes to Chelsea/Real Madrid not willing to meet that figure it's no ones fault but his own that the move doesn't happen.

but it's the club who determines a players value, modric can't say ''they've offered £30m for me, that is enough, that is what i feel i am worth'', signing a contract is enough , or should be enough to stop throwing a hissy fit. as i said, no one held a gun to his head and we've said he can go if our valuation is met. call it greed, call it a show of how important he is to the club, bottom line is, we're not doing anything wrong. if anything, it's the club coming in for him who are doing something wrong by not meeting a valuation though i know spurs are guilty of this aswell but that's what levy is good at. just a shame he's not as good or our scouts aren't as good as (say) newcastles atm.
 
If we had minimum fee release clauses as standard (In spain its the law) then all that would happen is clubs would slap massive buy out clauses on their players when new contracts were offered, and footballers, being the greedy little ****'s that they are will sign what ever is put in front of them so long as it gets them the weekly wage and signing on fee they want.

If Modric was stupid and greedy enough to sign a 6 year contract with Spuds, he is stupid and greedy enough to sign the same contract with a 50 million release clause in it.

Quite often players sign a new contract to help their current club get a bigger fee as payback for helping them in their career. Quite a few occasions where the papers jump to conclusion over a new contract being signed meaning a player won't move on but have done in the same window and a lot more the next year.

The question is how much would Modric have been worth to Spurs in a transfer deal today compared to before his last contract was signed.

Two people win when a player agree's to sign a new contract and the gentlemans agreement to sell the next year, the player gets more the team get a bigger transfer fee. Levy offering more money to a player that clearly wanted out and supposedly a gentlemans agreement points to him being just as greedy as Modric, or both just signed a mutually beneficial deal and Modric didn't want to screw a club that helped him.

July 2011 Falcao gets a circa 7mil fee to extend his current contract and add a 45mil euro buyout clause, around a month later he was sold for 40mil with add on's meaning a potential 47mil fee.

Who made more, the greedy Falcao or the club, they paid 7mil, and got probably 20mil higher transfer fee, for a player they only paid 4mil for(and why on earth didn't someone else buy him for that kind of fee).
 
but it's the club who determines a players value, modric can't say ''they've offered £30m for me, that is enough, that is what i feel i am worth'', signing a contract is enough , or should be enough to stop throwing a hissy fit. as i said, no one held a gun to his head and we've said he can go if our valuation is met. call it greed, call it a show of how important he is to the club, bottom line is, we're not doing anything wrong. if anything, it's the club coming in for him who are doing something wrong by not meeting a valuation though i know spurs are guilty of this aswell but that's what levy is good at. just a shame he's not as good or our scouts aren't as good as (say) newcastles atm.

My point is though if when Modric when he signed his new deal signed it with a 40m buyout he then has no moral or legal standpoint to then kick up a stink should Spurs reject a 35m bid because he knew when signing said deal that it would take at least 40m for a club to buy him from Spurs.

From Modric's point of view however had he refused to sign any deal with that high a buyout it would then of either forced Spurs to sell him (as his initial contract would surely of been coming to an end by now) or alternatively force them to play ball and agree to a 'fair' buyout.

I cant see it benefiting Spurs having this transfer saga go on for another summer on the off chance that one of the interested clubs will meet their asking price (which by all accounts last summer was actually more than 40m)
 
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It's not difficult to understand, what happened under previous owners and managers has no relevance on what the current owners and manager are doing. As I said, you may as well complain about Barnes not being replaced or Dalglish himself while you're at it.

Actually may as well not, we have fallen greatly since 08/09, the mistakes that have been made since then have been huge and caused us to be where we are now, a mid table team.

But yeah sure lets pretend that past never has relevance lmao.
 
tbf Purdy 08/09 was an exception not the rule when it comes to Liverpool and title aspirations :p
 
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