2010 called, they want there arguement back
The app store and Google Play both back just as many quaility apps as each other now. And eco system? Connect my phone to my pc and drag/drop all files to it, what can be simpler?
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2010 called, they want there arguement back
The app store and Google Play both back just as many quaility apps as each other now. And eco system? Connect my phone to my pc and drag/drop all files to it, what can be simpler?
Apple tell you how to use the device you just paid £600 for.
So that's what it is. I guess you learn something new every day.
2010 called, they want there arguement back
The app store and Google Play both back just as many quaility apps as each other now. And eco system? Connect my phone to my pc and drag/drop all files to it, what can be simpler?
Sigh. Firstly, the Play store has just about caught up app wise, but note that I said ecosystem. Google currently has nothing as good as iTunes, and that's a deal breaker for a lot of people. They're starting to work on it a bit now.
Again, your argument is one of personal preference. You can't comprehensively say one is better than the other for everybody. The very nature of this thread proves that your argument is poor and small-minded, unless you're one of these foolish people who is going to accuse everyone of a sheep mentality next...
People seem to have real trouble understanding why Apple are popular and good at what they do, it's very strange.
Same as the other ecosystems, just better. It's the reason I won't I get android tablet. I can't buy films on it.
It's apps/music/books/films, ecosystem is the entire media collection. Not only can you not buy films the app store is worse, but it's closed a lot recently and is good enough to use on phone. It's still very poor on tablet.
Windows store is great for media but lacking apps. Hopfully should change fast with MS backing and the massive win8 install base
As for people saying apple products aren't functional or style over function, that is complete twaddle.
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This seems odd as I've never come across an apple product that had any practical value whatsoever... hmm...
I'm sure you know. Otherwise you're an extremely slow learner, blimey.
You used the buzzword and I was asking you to explain it to the world, is that a problem for you?
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There's nothing compares to the Apple ecosystem and how devices all interact. Much better than Windows and Linux (and yes, I have and run all three at some point). The thing I don't like about Apple at the minute is the whole sandboxing and denying installation unless an application is signed by a verified dev. And to be verified you have to be signed up to the dev centre (which costs). To me it reeks of nothing more than scare tactics so people will buy/download through the app store.
Isn't it obvious what it is? A term used to describe the software and everything related to it.
So in relation to iOS, it would be iOS itself, the app store, iTunes, and everything related.
Currently Google can't offer something that can beat that, so it's a big selling point if being able to buy media on the device is important.
It's also worth noting that this is a worldwide issue as well, the Play store in Scandinavia for example is very different to the UK and US, it's much worse, where as the Apple one is pretty much the same everywhere.
Never said they wern't functional, in fact they i think they are well made and does what it says on the tin. But the phone itself is nothing speical and certainly not warrenting the success it has. So it comes to reason the phone itself has nothing to do with success of it, it's down to marketing and branding, and the likes of robbo don't want you to use the term 'isheep' despite this
Never said they wern't functional, in fact they i think they are well made and does what it says on the tin. But the phone itself is nothing speical and certainly not warrenting the success it has. So it comes to reason the phone itself has nothing to do with success of it, it's down to marketing and branding, and the likes of robbo don't want you to use the term 'isheep' despite this
Because such terms are childish and just make your 'argument' look silly?
Still, your views have pretty much unfolded as I expected. It's all down to marketing, nobody in their right mind could possibly prefer one. Madness.
Never said they wern't functional, in fact they i think they are well made and does what it says on the tin. But the phone itself is nothing speical and certainly not warrenting the success it has. So it comes to reason the phone itself has nothing to do with success of it, it's down to marketing and branding, and the likes of robbo don't want you to use the term 'isheep' despite this
The success of the iPhone was the ease of use when it was originally released. It's continued that, especially with how it interacts with the rest of your Apple hardware. Add to that the customer care people receive at the store when they have problems, you have a recipe that makes the common user extremely happy. Despite my username, I have never been inside an Apple store. But then I'm not a typical Apple user. I also run Windows boxes and Linux boxes and can see the positives and negatives in all hardware and software. It seems a lot of Apple haters can't seem to get their head around that what Apple hardware/software does, it does extremely well for the casual user and the casual user market is infinitely more vast than the self important "techy" sector.
Because such terms are childish and just make your 'argument' look silly?
Still, your views have pretty much unfolded as I expected.
Then i leave it to you to give me a term that appropiately describes being influanced en masse by branding that the product itself is at best above avarange
The latter part is your opinion, you think it's above average 'at best', that doesn't make it so.
I'm sure 'iSheep' do exist, without question. There will always be people who buy something because they perceive it as cool and someone they know has one. This doesn't just apply to Apple.
However, what we have here are high quality products that are being marketed well, that are designed to be used by everyone with ease, and they do a good job at almost everything that's important. Yes, Android can do more and is better in some areas - I prefer it for most things - but I have no problem understanding why people are happy with Apple products.
Is it?
Having had the original, 3G, 4 and 4S I disagree.
Tethering was always a nightmare and the only way around it was to pay extra for data I had already paid for as part of my contract. Bluetooth was as hit and miss as you can get with my old motor's Blue & Me system - in fact Bluetooth compatibility with a wide range of common devices was non-existent. Battery life was utterly appalling. Call quality was often borderline dysfunctional and the signal attenuation issues were ridiculous. File type support was very limited.
I'm not saying that iPhones are rubbish, clearly they are not. But in terms of functionality that a lot of people, myself included, use on a daily basis on the road, they're so far behind on areas of basic functionality that it is unfathomable.
That is true. Something as simple as getting OS X and Windows to share iTunes libraries with each other is a total pain in testes. Ended up setting up a centralised library on a NAS as it was so much simpler.
iTunes is a pain. But I use it because I hate installing more software on top of something that does what I need (and for the same reason I use WMP on Windows, despite the fact I don't like that). But I rip/download my music in iTunes, edit the tags and then offload it to a NAS so iTunes can't mess with any of the edits or organisation I've added, as it's want to do if you do a fresh install, forget to change the settings and import a library.
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The reason behind all the above is to limit the scope for compatibility and software errors causing issues with the device which either renders it inoperable or results in repeated crashes.
Which works great, because afterall in an emergency I need a phone to act like a phone.
I can't remember the last time my iPhone failed to function as intended or crashed, however i can remember several occasions when my Android devices have crashed.
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How can people say their devices are form over function? Every piece of Apple hardware that I've used hasn't just looked good on the outside, the software has also looked great and worked well.