No it doesn't. And are you seriously suggesting that the only way humans acquire good morals is by blindly following what they are told by someone who read something in some medieval document?
Why is the UK not religious anymore?
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No it doesn't. And are you seriously suggesting that the only way humans acquire good morals is by blindly following what they are told by someone who read something in some medieval document?
I'm at work, so technically, I'm getting paid to post
No, technically, you're getting paid to work, not waste company time on forums.
I think that's your boss standing behind you by the way.
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So without religion you think that people would just run around raping and murdering each other? Do you really think that little of yourself/people in general, that a fantasy tail is needed to curtail that behaviour?
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Education and atheism go hand-in-hand.
When you have rational (scientific) explanation for the world around you, why do you need imaginary sky fairies, child rapists and flying spaghetti monsters to explain things?
We are smarter; we're less religious. End.
When you have rational (scientific) explanation for the world around you, why do you need imaginary sky fairies, child rapists and flying spaghetti monsters to explain things?
We are smarter; we're less religious. End.
It's more about the social framework to allow education to flourish. If the people are oppressed then education will be oppressed, that's where religion comes in to allow for a fair and moral society.
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Sorry, did you seriously say that? There is no fair or moral in religion; it's my way or no way.
Are you aware of the Inquisition?
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I didn't mean it to be a sweeping statement, but it's true for a lot of people. (Not all, there I put that part in for you).
Straight out rejecting religion blind is moronic. I'd rather know a lot about it and then reject it. Rather than rejecting religion based upon what others say about it. I was brought up as a Catholic, went to a Catholic primary + secondary school. Now that I have left I don't consider myself religious, however learning about religion is fascinating. I used to have a Jehovah's Witness on my bus to school (she went to a different one) and used to ask her about it all the time. Same for a Hindu friend at university. Religion interests me.
A lot of people don't necessarily believe the storys from their religious books. However the morals in religion (some of them) are good morals. It's also the community and something they're brought up on and it's part of their life, does that make them all morons? No. And for you to say that is ridiculous.
Agreed. There are very intelligent people who are religious. I think that their belief is incorrect but they are certainly not moronic about it.
There exist moronic reasons for believing, as do moronic reasons for disbelieving. However, there are also intelligent arguments for both sides.
I know plenty about religion.
You were the person who first used the word 'moron' in a sweeping statement. I stand by my comment, if I were a moron I would rather be a non-religious one.
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You can be intelligent and still be delusional/deluded.
oxymoron?
No?
Just cause someone is religious does not mean that they think its the be all and end all, it just might fit in with their life and thinking.
Or you can be intelligent and simply pretend to believe because you know it will make you money or political gain. Like a lot of the US politicians with Christianity, and UK academics/politicians/etc who pay lip service to political correctness. I don't most of them actually believe in it though. It's politically expedient.
Anyone noticed how all things military have almost become a quasi-religion since Iraq? I'm sure a lot of politicians privately don't think too much of squaddies but they fall over themselves trying to brown nose them in public. In the 60s when the US where fighting the communists in Vietnam the public was falling over themselves to spit on the troops coming home at the airport. They were embarrased to wear their uniforms.
Now you have people lining up to give them hugs and thank them for their service and all that stuff. You can see it makes the soldiers cringe. It's just the narrative set by the current cultural elite (marxists in the 60s/70s and Neocons in the 2000s). Anti-war back then and now pro-war today to fit their agendas. People go with the herd. Nobody can actually think critically except for the cultural elite and a few "witches".