Some might argue that football can afford to alienate some of the fan base. For all the talk about what a disgrace footballers are I still see record gate receipts, TV deals etc. People are voting with their wallets and saying "I LOVE FOOTBALL".
Why do players argue with the ref when a player is sent off?
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It would be easier for a single referee to make more consistent decisions (it's difficult to use the term correct here given subjectivity) and by the book decisions than to get 22 players to change their ways.
But of course
not really, even before the days of VRs in Rugby the players still had much more respect for the officials than their footballing equivalents. I'd go as far as to say that in general rugby players have much more repect for the game they play as a whole. Most professional footie players are pompous, self absorbed egotistical *****s who think they are bigger than the game. All you have to do is look at the total lack of respect they have even at an international level.
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Again, I still can't tell if you're being serious. If you are, that's an extremely poor argument and full of holes. If not, well trolled
Not just rugby, but cricket too. Cricket is 100% based on respect and playing in the spirit of the game. There was an incident once where a player was given out LBW when it was very very obvious that the umpire had made the wrong decision. The equivalent in football is maybe the ball hitting a player's stomach and the ref giving handball.
So this player, when he was walking off, he pointed to his bat to show that the ball hit his bat. That is all. What happened? He got disciplined and got fined 20% of his match fee and had to apologise. Cricket is all about respect for the officials. Players can show disappointment in themselves for getting out, but if they show any sort of disappointment or resentment towards an official - BOOM! Disciplinary time.
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I wonder if bringing this in, would cause the younger generation to think differently towards the officials etc.
A young lad about 12 sits behind me, and I regularly hear him shout ridiculous things and generally kick off at the referee when something happens. I'm not sure he even knows the offside rule, but perhaps if players didn't surround the ref or throw hissy fits when something didn't go their way, he'd be less inclined to copy.
"get a life"
"you are blind referee!"
The guy next to me spends half the match looking back at him and facepalming.
A young lad about 12 sits behind me, and I regularly hear him shout ridiculous things and generally kick off at the referee when something happens. I'm not sure he even knows the offside rule, but perhaps if players didn't surround the ref or throw hissy fits when something didn't go their way, he'd be less inclined to copy.
"get a life"
"you are blind referee!"
The guy next to me spends half the match looking back at him and facepalming.
i think that all pro footballers are just wimpy numptys
they moan at the ref about every decision
they spend half the game on the floor holding their nose when they get hit in the knee
and they think its ok to kiss each other
I think there is something wrong with the sport
they moan at the ref about every decision
they spend half the game on the floor holding their nose when they get hit in the knee
and they think its ok to kiss each other
I think there is something wrong with the sport
The thing about cricket is the fielding side will quite often signal a 6 instead of a 4 if it's a close call and the umpire cant see. Would you get that in football?
I've had this respect debate many times, I don't think sending a whole team off for insubordination will work, but maybe a yellow card and time out ie sin binning might work.
I've had this respect debate many times, I don't think sending a whole team off for insubordination will work, but maybe a yellow card and time out ie sin binning might work.
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Exactly. And there's players who absolutely embody the spirit of the game. There's a player called Jacques Kallis, whenever the umpire is unsure if a fielder took a catch cleanly, Kallis simply asks the fielder and if they say yes, he'll take their word for it and walk off the pitch!
So players in cricket get fined for insubordination, even if they're right and this demonstrates that cricketers have more respect than footballers? Eh?
Footballers aren't punished for insubordination. That is why they do it and they will continue to do it until the authorities do punish them appropriately - either by giving them massive fines of by sending them off.
I agree that rugby players have more respect for the game and officials at the moment. This is simply because they don't have the same levels of money riding on getting every decision, correct or not.
manyoo have always been the worst for it.
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So players in cricket get fined for insubordination, even if they're right and this demonstrates that cricketers have more respect than footballers? Eh?
In cricket, it's a lot easier to objectively state whether a decision was correct or not, and as such, umpires have statistics for the % of decisions that they call correctly. Umpires at Test level have around 95% of correct decisions.
My point is that most of the time, the reason the fine is handed out is because it is not acceptable behaviour for a cricketer. Other than the odd situation, the cricketers respect the umpire's decision, even if they feel hard done by, and will walk off without question. Everyone can make mistakes, afterall.
My point was that I was trying to highlight the level of professional conduct and respect that cricketers (and rugby players) are required to show in comparison to footballers.