A man caught doing 180mph in a police chase on the M6....!!

It's not, really. I've done very near that on the road and it's about the least scary thing you can imagine; the scenery is just changing faster.

i have a physchological block at about 130mph. it feels like youre covering so much distance, so quickly, it makes me feel uncomfortable thinking "what if"

i expect the adrenaline he experienced in the getaway made it a huge buzz though
 
VAG own the whole show as far as I'm concerned. There are so many mainstream news articles quoting RS owners as having 'Lamborghini engined' and 'Lamborghini braked' cars.

Yes, they're great in their own right, but reeling out the Lambo spiel isn't pretty.

No doubt some dreary arse with an A4 S Line TDI in a sales office somewhere is telling his colleagues that his car has Lambo brakes and suspension because it's an S Line.
 
i have a physchological block at about 130mph. it feels like youre covering so much distance, so quickly, it makes me feel uncomfortable thinking "what if"

i expect the adrenaline he experienced in the getaway made it a huge buzz though
It really does depend on the car IME. I drove a Puma the other day at what was probably 110 MPH, and that felt pretty unsafe; no stability control, cheap tyres, weak brakes, poor grip, very few safety features etc. At 80 it was moving about a lot due to road undulations and wind. I wouldn't want to be in an emergency situation in it.

Compare that to the 535d, which isn't exactly the pinnacle of high-speed motoring, and it feels safer at 150 than the Puma at 80; can probably stop faster too :p
 
It's not, really. I've done very near that on the road and it's about the least scary thing you can imagine; the scenery is just changing faster.

I'm quite familiar with your opinion on what "safe speed" is, but i'm afraid it does not match with mine, nor the CPS ;) :p

I've done 140mph and that was quick (in Germany), things just happen so fast. 180mph? Forget it. I'd need to be insane to consider doing that on a road with the same hazards and poor surface as a public motorway. Just one poorly tarmac'd area, one bit where the lane sinks down and pops back up (you know the kind), one large gust of wind, one guy not expecting you to come up the inside lane 110mph quicker than he is and you will almost certainly be leaving the scene in an ambulance without it's blues and twos on.

Like i said. Give me one of those runways where they do those Vmax days, and i'd gladly get in an RS5 and do 180mph.
 
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I'm quite familiar with your opinion on what "safe speed" is, but i'm afraid it does not match with mine, nor the CPS ;) :p

I've done 140mph and that was quick (in Germany), things just happen so fast. 180mph? Forget it. I'd need to be insane to consider doing that on a road with the same hazards and poor surface as a public motorway. Just one poorly tarmac'd area, one bit where the lane sinks down and pops back up (you know the kind), one large gust of wind, one guy not expecting you to come up the inside lane 110mph quicker than he is and you will almost certainly be leaving the scene in an ambulance without it's blues and twos on.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with driving at high speed if people are in appropriate vehicles, aware of the hazards and have experience; this is exactly why it's legal on significant parts of the German road network. In the UK it's a little trickier as you have to be much more aware of what people expect, but broadly speaking it's also OK if there isn't congestion. If you are looking far enough ahead you can anticipate people who might attempt an overtake and slow down. You can't sit there at a 170 cruise, but you can certainly burst up to those speeds when things are clearer without any safety issues.
 
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with driving at high speed if people are in appropriate vehicles, aware of the hazards and have experience; this is exactly why it's legal on significant parts of the German road network. In the UK it's a little trickier as you have to be much more aware of what people expect, but broadly speaking it's also OK if there isn't congestion. If you are looking far enough ahead you can anticipate people who might attempt an overtake and slow down. You can't sit there at a 170 cruise, but you can certainly burst up to those speeds when things are clearer without any safety issues.

Sorry, but you're views on speed are totally warped. This is something documented in your posting history with regards to speed. I just had a cursory glance back at your driving record, by the time you were driving 3 years, you'd already had 7 accidents (that may be more now). You've been caught doing "significantly over 30mph in an urban area" (wasn't it around 80mph?). You've been almost caught doing 122mph for miles on end on the motorway and there was another time you were sat on cruise control at 80mph on a backroad and almost destroyed another car (i believe this was the time you discovered the wonder of EBA). And it always seems to come back to the fact you have a BMW with good tyres or something, so you're invincible.

I'm sorry to dredge all that up and it should be noted that 90% of this stuff was from 3-4 years ago, but it seems relevant, given your views on how doing significant speed "is ok as long as it isn't congested". I've had a similar car history to you and at the same ages, but my views on speed have matured - yours don't seem to.

RE: Autobahn's, it may well be legal, but there is a reason why they say that "if you are involved in an accident above 160kph (?), regardless of the situation, you will take some of the blame". This to me says that Germany do recognise that high speeds increase danger, but they subscribe to a "allow people to use their own common sense" thing, which i like. However, that is Germany, this is the UK.
 
I've not had seven accidents, unless you count things like clipping a mirror or kerbing a wheel. I was charged with driving in excess of 60 in a 30 zone. I don't quite recall the 122 one, but that's a fairly normal speed so that's unsurprising. I had to brake hard because I car started to pull out in front of me on a backroad, and it was surprising how EBA worked.

I've driven hundreds of thousands of miles over the near 8 years I've had my license, and haven't crashed in to anything because I was travelling at very high speed.

I'm sorry that you are taking such offence to my indifference to your inexperienced opinion that you feel the need to go through my posts as an 18 year old.
 
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Not sure where I had read it, but it had a V10 dropped in apparently.

I read that in the Metro today.... Its either a mistake or Audi offer the RS5 with the V10 or V12 from the labbo?!

Mistake?

Just seen. Car was modified
 
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with driving at high speed if people are in appropriate vehicles, aware of the hazards and have experience; .

What feature in the vehicle safety arsenel do they name their road debris detection system?

You arn't aware of the all the hazards ever on the road hence IMO anything above 100 is not a 'safe' speed. I agree it can be managed with a moderate tolerance of risk.

Theres not a lot you can do with a blowout at 75mph.... I speak from experience. Although a stability system that could manage individual wheels may have helped
 
A lot of Suzuki GSXR 1000 owners have done 186mph on public highways (vehicles top indicated speed - speedo won't go higher) but have never been clocked/caught at this speed. You'd have to be a complete moron to get caught though at that speed. It's not like you'd just do it randomly one day during rush hour.
 
What feature in the vehicle safety arsenel do they name their road debris detection system?

You arn't aware of the all the hazards ever on the road hence IMO anything above 100 is not a 'safe' speed. I agree it can be managed with a moderate tolerance of risk.
The difference between 100 and 70 is literally nothing - it's a half second of braking. The sort of places where you'd do very high speed (say 160+) are where you can see ahead and where you have places to go if there is a hazard up ahead i.e. a free lane.
Theres not a lot you can do with a blowout at 75mph.... I speak from experience. Although a stability system that could manage individual wheels may have helped
If you have RFTs and ESC a blowout at 75 is pretty calm, and with just ESC it should be controllable.
 
The difference between 100 and 70 is literally nothing - it's a half second of braking. .

Its actually twice the kinetic energy that anything in the world of physics has to deal with before the car stops.

Which is loads defined by physics and not your skewed opinion.


The walk from 80 - 110 is less of a % jump yet you referred to it as your safe and unsafe threshold? Interesting....
 
If you have RFTs and ESC a blowout at 75 is pretty calm, and with just ESC it should be controllable.

Thats nice but kinda on a wing and a prayer and using crap ride attribute tyres?

What about if the debris peels the tyre apart such that the failing carcass gets trapped in the rear coil spring and essentially locks the wheel from rotating?
 
In PMKeates world, nothing unexpected ever happens, and every situation on the road can be solved by having good tyres, a BMW and DSC/ABS.

I just would have thought after all his driving experience he would have realised this is not true unfortunately.
 
Its actually twice the kinetic energy that anything in the world of physics has to deal with before the car stops.

Which is loads defined by physics and not your skewed opinion.
I'm aware of how kinetic energy works. Were you intending to add a contrary opinion to mine, or just state a fact?
The walk from 80 - 110 is less of a % jump yet you referred to it as your safe and unsafe threshold? Interesting....
I did not refer it to as my safe and unsafe threshold.
Thats nice but kinda on a wing and a prayer and using crap ride attribute tyres?
I fly maybe 40 times a year - life is a wing and a prayer.
What about if the debris peels the tyre apart such that the failing carcass gets trapped in the rear coil spring and essentially locks the wheel from rotating?
What if any number of things might happen. The reality is, the frequency of these events is so incredibly low that the chances of it happening in a situation with slightly escalated danger due to speed is minimal.
In PMKeates world, nothing unexpected ever happens, and every situation on the road can be solved by having good tyres, a BMW and DSC/ABS.

I just would have thought after all his driving experience he would have realised this is not true unfortunately.
Unexpected things always happen - the key is how you deal with them. You do not have to drive in a way that leaves you no margin for error, no path of escape and puts you beyond the point of no return to drive at 120 MPH.

I re-state that if you are in an appropriate car, pay the appropriate amount of attention, and leave yourself reasonable unexposed, you can drive at very high speed without any significant increase in danger. You can balk on about "what ifs" all you like.

Evidently we do not share the same opinion, and probably never will.
 
I'm sorry that you are taking such offence to my indifference to your inexperienced opinion that you feel the need to go through my posts as an 18 year old.

Again, perfectly demonstrating your arrogance, that anyone who disagrees with you is inexperienced. You seem to have the same attitude at as an 18 year old whose parents just bought him a Civic Type R or something. 2 weeks later in a hedge upside down with a broken neck.

If I need someone with experience of crashing cars, how to have near misses and not learn from them and getting caught doing crazy speeds in 30mph urban areas/everywhere, ill come knocking. Until then, I think you can keep your "experience".
 
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