Never complained about the TV licence...until now

Heliospherez said:
Considering the evasion rate is approx 5% of the population.... if that's correct - then hardly anyone is prosecuted
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It'll be 5% of those who should have a licence so households, business premises etc.

I believe TV Licensing have a database of around 30 million addresses so 5% would be 1.5 million meaning around 10% a year are prosecuted.

A lot more are "caught" and presumably just pay up.


Heliospherez said:
And "The average fine is £171" - Hardly a deterent.
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Personally I wouldn't be worried by the £171 fine but I wouldn't fancy having the criminal record to go with it.
 
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If yu try to pay monthly they make you pay double for the first six months then reduce your payment to the normal rate, effectively giving them 6 months tv licence money for free. If you cancel or say you no longer have a tv I'm not even sure you get it back either!
 
Car tax does the same. Expires at the end of a specific month, probably a throw back to the paper days when things were more difficult to track.
Really not much of an excuse for such things now, as computer systems can happily cope with individual times and dates.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Car tax does the same. Expires at the end of a specific month, probably a throw back to the paper days when things were more difficult to track.
Really not much of an excuse for such things now, as computer systems can happily cope with individual times and dates.
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Also, giving everyone individual dates would be more efficient as presumably their staff currently have a really busy week at the end of the month and then quiet for the previous 3 weeks.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Car tax does the same. Expires at the end of a specific month, probably a throw back to the paper days when things were more difficult to track.
Really not much of an excuse for such things now, as computer systems can happily cope with individual times and dates.
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Pretty sure car tax gives you extra? eg you pay on the 15th august, it expires the end of August the following year, rather than the end of July, as it would for TV licence.

May be wrong, but that's how I thought it was?
 
R.C.Anderson said:
Pretty sure car tax gives you extra? eg you pay on the 15th august, it expires the end of August the following year, rather than the end of July, as it would for TV licence.

May be wrong, but that's how I thought it was?
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It's never been like that when I've had to tax a car for the first time.

I've always "lost" whatever part of the month had already passed.
 
Surveyor said:
It's never been like that when I've had to tax a car for the first time.

I've always "lost" whatever part of the month had already passed.
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Same for me, if it wasn't all that would happen is that people would renew a few days into the month to get a 'free' month. Of course the DVLA would rather people lost than gained.
 
Redrum said:
I bought my first ever TV licence a few months ago and the same thing happened to me. I had no idea until it was too late. I think it's unacceptable, which is why when it runs out, I don't plan to renew it until a month later. I'm sure I'll get threatened etc. and if they want to take me to court over it, they can.
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If you don't tell them who you are they can't take you to court, simples:)
 
Another one that has an annoying expire date like that is the oyster cards. If you buy a weekly ticket for all zones in the afternoon. You will get one less ride out of it than if you bought it in the morning. It expires at the day not at the time.
 
The tv licence people are worse than hmrc, dvla and Gestapo combined. If you don't pay, every household is assumed guilty of non payment until you let someone in your house to prove otherwise. The powers are a bit ott for something which is essentially not critical to well being of the nation.
 
pooley said:
Probably mistaken in thinking they have some sort of authority which of course they do not.
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They went to my friends, who is a police officer, door once. According to the licence man, he had more rights to enter the property than a police officer. Of course, my friend legally refused entry and heard nothing more.
 
Ahleckz said:
They went to my friends, who is a police officer, door once. According to the licence man, he had more rights to enter the property than a police officer. Of course, my friend legally refused entry and heard nothing more.
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Well they have the same rights as a police officer in that they need a warrant to enter your premises. The problem for them is to get the warrant they need proof you own a TV and to prove you have a TV they need a warrant so kind of a Catch 22.

I'm not sure if they can get warrants if you are 'reported' by neighbours though.
 
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