Dom Bower spouting more nonsense

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I subscribed to him a while ago, but nowadays it seems every video he puts out he's aggressively wrong with everything he says. In truly pedantic terms, no, larger sensor =/= shallower depth of field, but in the real world you don't stand in the same place to get the photo on a 35mm vs a crop with the same lens, that would be idiotic.

Can anyone confirm or am I just going crazy??
 
This is the second time he's posted idiocy about DOF (he did the same when he first got a D700 from his D300). The guy obviously can't get his head around the technical stuff.
 
Yeah he's said the same thing on perspective, saying a 50 will give the same perspective regardless of sensor size (it won't) - very pedantically true stuff but with no real world bearing at all because other things come into play
 
I only have one comment, seriously people subscribe to him? Even watching that short video made me want to cry he is so annoying.

Obviosuly he is technically correct but his pedantic rant sums up everything that is bad about geeks getting involved in photography much like the endless my camera is 5% better than yours at something so therefore yours is rubish threads we have on here.

People, the idiot in the video included just need to get out and enjoy taking photos and stop obsessing over gear as it won't take better pics by itself.
 
He always says that though (get out and shoot rather than obsess over gear) it's just he's a decidedly mediocre photographer and clearly doesn't understand the gear he builds his channel on. It's no secret that it's easier to get youtube views/subscribers talking about gear but I'm amazed that somehow, after shooting a 5D2, he still thinks DoF is the same.

I can't remember when or why I subscribed to him, tbh, but he's definitely gotten worse since I did - I don't remember him being this aggressively misinformed in the past.
 
Ksanti said:
He always says that though .
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he may say it but he's clearly not practicing it having become some sort of minor you tube celebratory discussing gear. This thread is another classic example of discussion around the technicalities of photography rather than the actual taking of photographs, we should all take our own advice and go and shoot some pictures wether we are shooting with an ancient 10D or a brand new d800 we would all get much more out of taking pictures than arguing the relative merits of full frame yet again!
 
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Really no offence Alex, but I don't think it's for you to say how much others should be using their camera's. For all you know they may be shooting more frequently than you, but be talking about photography gear instead of football. If the issue is you find it boring, then no one is forcing you to read these threads.
Ksanti was simply pointing out how weird it is that a youtube guru could show such a lack of understanding. I personally found it quite entertaining.
 
So, if I understand properly, if you keep the field of view the same a bigger sensor will give a shallower depth of field because you have to move closer to the subject, whereas when keeping the positions the same the sensor size won't affect depth of field. What's all the hoohar about?
 
jak731 said:
So, if I understand properly, if you keep the field of view the same a bigger sensor will give a shallower depth of field because you have to move closer to the subject, whereas when keeping the positions the same the sensor size won't affect depth of field but will affect FOV. What's all the hoohar about?
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Ask Dom Bower, he's clearly the one who doesn't get it, and is upset that everyone else does.
 
An Exception said:
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Really no offence Alex, but I don't think it's for you to say how much others should be using their camera's. For all you know they may be shooting more frequently than you, but be talking about photography gear instead of football. If the issue is you find it boring, then no one is forcing you to read these threads.
Ksanti was simply pointing out how weird it is that a youtube guru could show such a lack of understanding. I personally found it quite entertaining.
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You totally missed my point.

1. It has nothing to do with how much I'm shooting.
2. I didn't say don't discuss equipment I said don't waste hours arguing and debating tiny details which don't really effect the ability to capture images in the field
3. The man clearly isn't an 'internet guru' he's a jumped up shouty nobody with a youtube account who has somehow developed a following and he hasn't really got it that wrong he's just playing with words.
 
a1ex2001 said:
2. I didn't say don't discuss equipment I said don't waste hours arguing and debating tiny details which don't really effect the ability to capture images in the field
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Where depth of field comes from is not a tiny detail for many photographers. Go tell Lara Jade, Raymond, Alexandra Kinsk etc they don't need full frame for shallow depth of field because it doesn't actually matter.

Also I shoot mainly fashion/portraiture nowadays so I can't shoot an awful lot, though I've been getting into film/street photography and have been shooting a Nikon Fe for the past week. Don't worry yourself, I'm not on here instead of shooting, I'm here in addition to shooting

jak731 said:
So, if I understand properly, if you keep the field of view the same a bigger sensor will give a shallower depth of field because you have to move closer to the subject, whereas when keeping the positions the same the sensor size won't affect depth of field. What's all the hoohar about?
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Pretty much right. To keep the field of view the same, though, you have to change the focal length when changing sensor sizes e.g. go from a 50 to an 85 (well, 80, but they don't make 80mm primes), where, at the same apertures, obviously the 85 will give shallower depth of field.
 
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