GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H - Freezing/Unstable Problems

Surley I should'nt have to set any of these settings manually? I'm not overclocking and not using anything to power consuming? Its just a stock 2500 i5 with 8Gb of 1600mhz ram.

I played the demo of sleeping dogs last night and didn't have any issues. Underload the PC seems to perform fine. The intel burn in "Medium" test is stable and passes - does get hot tho.

However, If I leave my PC on overnight, idling (With power settings disabled) it will crash and will be presented with a error message in the morning.

My only other things to try now are to use the o/b graphics card and replace the ram. Everything to me points to the motherboard just due to what other people are experiencing on the Gigabyte forums and the fact I've had to raise the BCLK to stop the machine freezing all of the time when in use.
 
When I first noted your post I saw the Seasonic 500w PSU and then the 8800GT and thought that those are two components that do not seem balanced with the rest of your system. Whether they could contribute or cause an issue is another thing but I don't think that I would be too happy with either of them.

Then again that psu was questioned in the link you provided.

I would suggest looping memtest overnight with the settings you have entered and voltage that it is supposed to use. If that passes fine then I would put the memory concerns aside and move on to...

I am using a UD5H at the moment and my D3H is waiting to go in a build so I'm not sure of the precise bios settings...

Temporarily remove the GPU and all the NVidia drivers and enable the onboard GPU and use the HDMI connection / VGA to your monitor. Have the drivers ready prior to doing this. Install drivers and set resolution etc and then take it from there.

If the issue is not there (I doubt it would be the exact same as the nvlddmkm is part of an NVidia driver) then disable the on-board and try the 4x PCI-E slot for the 8800.

In other words trouble shoot one thing at a time etc to try and get to what is causing the issue rather than making too many changes at once.
 
Vimes, My 8800GT is still being used to power two monitors. I've had it for years and very happy with it. I don't really play games on my machine - but when I do, they run fine. Its far superior than most O/B graphics Chipsets.

My Seasonic S12 is old granted, I've had it since my AMD X2 3800+ but caused me no issues. It was top of the range back then, paid over £120 for it. The voltages from the system monitor are well within their limits and very stable. I really can't see a i5 @ stock with 1 hard drive and a 8800GT drawing anything near 500w personally. The crashing is occuring when idle or under very little load.

I'll try the O/B graphics card tonight and leave it overnight. I'm just a little weary that people have had issues with higher end graphics cards on this motherboard in the graphics card section of these forums. They've swapped their board for another make and the problems have gone. As suggested I'll loop Mem-test as well.

Thanks ;)
 
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Bacon? said:
I am betting its the RAM, you need to manually tune the RAM on that board I think otherwise it BSOD's
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When you say tune? As in set the settings for the RAM manually or tune to increase voltages e.t.c.?

I've setup the RAM to run @ stock (1600mhz, 9-9-9-27) and still getting problems. The only thing which is concerning me is the RAM is running at 1.644 instead of the stock 1.650v. I can't seem to change it - even trying to run it slightly higher @ 1.660.
 
Can you get it back to stock settings which would 1333, probably same timings. Also that seems high voltage :/

I can run 8GB 1600 (different RAM) at 1.5-1.55V
 
markyb said:
Vimes, My 8800GT is still being used to power two monitors. I've had it for years and very happy with it. I don't really play games on my machine - but when I do, they run fine. Its far superior than most O/B graphics Chipsets.

My Seasonic S12 is old granted, I've had it since my AMD X2 3800+ but caused me no issues. It was top of the range back then, paid over £120 for it. The voltages from the system monitor are well within their limits and very stable. I really can't see a i5 @ stock with 1 hard drive and a 8800GT drawing anything near 500w personally. The crashing is occuring when idle or under very little load.

I'll try the O/B graphics card tonight and leave it overnight. I'm just a little weary that people have had issues with higher end graphics cards on this motherboard in the graphics card section of these forums. They've swapped their board for another make and the problems have gone. As suggested I'll loop Mem-test as well.

Thanks ;)
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It is not to suggest that what you have is faulty but to eliminate or, hopefully, conclude where to put your effort.

As to that thread in the GPU section I have seen it and I could add that my Z77 D3H ran fine with...

4870 512mb
460 GTX 1GB
670 GTX 2GB

With all four memory slots full totalling 12GB with a mix of Corsair and OCZ memory.

It ran perfectly fine and did not miss a beat at 4.4Ghz with my 3570k and the turbo settings used.

Regardless of how well things ran before in another set-up it is how they combine with what you have now and if they are compromising that stability.

What I suggested was to merely help to diagnose that. :)

Best of luck
 
Vimes said:
It is not to suggest that what you have is faulty but to eliminate or, hopefully, conclude where to put your effort.

As to that thread in the GPU section I have seen it and I could add that my Z77 D3H ran fine with...

4870 512mb
460 GTX 1GB
670 GTX 2GB

With all four memory slots full totalling 12GB with a mix of Corsair and OCZ memory.

It ran perfectly fine and did not miss a beat at 4.4Ghz with my 3570k and the turbo settings used.

Regardless of how well things ran before in another set-up it is how they combine with what you have now and if they are compromising that stability.

What I suggested was to merely help to diagnose that. :)

Best of luck
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I totally see where your coming from mate. Its just frustrating as to me as the rig is nothing special and should all work out the box :D I guess that PCs for ya! ;)

I've got a few bits to try tonight, removing Graphics card + Mem-test and more Memory tweaks. I'll also try resetting all the bios settings to default.

I'll let you know how I get on.
 
Ok, Set the RAM Voltage a little higher last night and started to play a couple of games. For a good hour or so the rig was stable and running everything well. Then the screen frooze and had to reboot.

I pulled out the Graphics card and used the o/b - left it downloading over night. Came back to it this morning and it did not crash.

Before I left for work, I put the 8800GT in the second slot (4x) and left it running. Not sure where I stand now? The graphics card has been fine in the previous rig for 2 years.
 
I do wish that I could stop you comparing one system build to another :D

As long as you did the memtest as I noted just simply put aside that as an issue.

Where you stand now is possibly better informed with a sense of direction than you were before...

Just see how you go on with the card in that slot and if all is well then fine. If not try different drivers, it is an "old" card and sometimes the latest drivers are not always the best.

Placing an older generation card into a Z77 motherboard with a Gen III slot might just be causing you the issues - hence me suggesting that you remove it and try the onboard and then place it in your x4 slot.

If all goes well then leave it as it is - in my opinion you should have all the power saving features etc enabled.
Ensure that the GPU performance is fine and not compromised.

Or

You could, after testing the above for stability, place the card back in what would then be a stable system and see if you can force it to select GEN II for the slot - I can't check as my D3H is out of a system at the moment.
 
Vimes, the idea is to replace the card for something a little newer shortly anyway - any excuse to upgrade :D

Since I re-installed I've not installed any Nvidia drivers. I'm using the standard approved Windows ones to ensure its not a driver thing.

Thanks for your help so far :) The machines left on now - will let you know how it goes
 
PCs been up for 11 hours now and no issues *So far. 8800GT running in the lower 4x socket.

However, looking around on the net I find that Intel do not recommend anything over 1.5v for memory on Ivy Bridge - Does this count for me considering I'm running a sandy bridge on a Z77 chipset?

Intel Thread here :- http://communities.intel.com/thread/30798
 
Glad that it seems stable for you now.

As for your second point - I'm not sure. I bought some Corsair DDR3 12800 memory running at 1.35v. I would never have chosen memory at 1.65v but people do and memory is sold with that specification. Some even run higher with the Samsung Greens than the 1.65v you have noted.
 
Thanks Vimes, I think ill replace the ram with some lower voltage. What model Corsair Ram are you running?

By sticking my graphics card in the other slot - does this mean my 8800GT is not compatible with the newer GEN3 PCI-E socket?
 
I wouldn't jump to assume that similar issues apply to SB as they do to the super hot and toasty 22nm IB. They could have enough of a difference to consider that the 1.65v you are using with the SB could be fine for the expected use of that chip...

Overclockers have written....

Memory Voltage - Intel recommend 1.50v plus/minus 5% which means up to 1.58v is the safe recommended limit. In our testing we have found 1.65v has caused no issues.
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I'm not sure how you would see 1.65v as being no issue though as it would be more of a long term damage causing issue...? As I noted I have seen people post that they have used 1.8v when pushing the Samsung Green memory, I'm not sure if they are aware of it using the MCH which is onboard the IB.
It is just that if I was buying a SB or IB CPU I would prefer the memory that I have bought and I would not choose some which requires voltage above that recommended by Intel.

I use Corsair Vengeance White Low Profile 12800 2x4GB Sticks at 1.35v.

Remember that Intel rate the MCH at 1.5v. And so I'm not absolutely positive that running the MCH at a much less voltage than 1.5v is asking for any stability issues. I would like to think not and mine has been fine but I would sooner have 1.35v memory than 1.65v.

Second point - It just suggests that your venerable card and that particular slot on that motherboard, with your drivers, are having issues which could be explored further or just left as they are and enjoy the system as it is.
I wouldn't read too much into it as long as the performance is fine then continue as you are.
 
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markyb said:
Thanks Vimes, I think ill replace the ram with some lower voltage. What model Corsair Ram are you running?

By sticking my graphics card in the other slot - does this mean my 8800GT is not compatible with the newer GEN3 PCI-E socket?
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GEN3 PCI-E slots are Backward compatibility with PCI-E 1.0 & 2.0 so their shouldn't be a problem.
 
Guys - Still having problems with this.

The other night the machine locked up. Every now and then I get a white/black screen and then the desktop re-appears and the Nvidia stopped responding and the driver recovered (in the bottom x4 slot)

I've placed the card back up to the top slot, set the PEG as GEN2 but made no difference.

Last night I performed a totally clean installation of Windows 7 x64 on to another hard drive (Pulled out the previous one) and set it all up. I played Diablo III for an hour or so no issues and ran a couple of benchmarks 3DMark Vantage (Score was 6500) and ran the intel burn in test which passed fine.

Left the machine on all night and come back to it and had crashed this morning...

- The previous system shutdown at 05:25:43 on ‎14/‎09/‎2012 was unexpected.

- Unable to produce a minidump file from the full dump file.

- The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000116 (0xfffffa800a78d010, 0xfffff8800f1cc584, 0xffffffffc00000b5, 0x000000000000000a). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: .


It appears to be fine on the o/b graphics card so it all points to my 8800GT. So, I'm looking on the MM for a GTX460/470 at the moment however just a little worried that I will get the same issues with another card.

I'm e-mailing Gigabyte support through their website who have recreated my setup (8800GT and simlar memory e.t.c.) who said it passes load tests which mine does, however its appears to be a very random problem and can re-create the issue everytime by leaving the machine on overnight idling.
 
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