Why is the UK not religious anymore?

The whole question of the existence of a deity has no bearing on how I live my life and would have no bearing if it were definitively answered. I don't believe in a God and I don't believe there is value in asking if there is one (or more).

That's a fair point and I think there's certainly an argument for saying that it wouldn't affect you personally. The trouble is how everyone else would react that would indirectly affect you. If tomorrow we discovered definitive proof that there is a god then a lot would happen. Religion and the church have a big influence on the world.
 
Why are we not religious?
Probably because its a load cack that belongs in the middle ages as opposed to 2012.

Damn me!!! :D

Precisely. Let the 'clever people' have endless debates and theories. It's always going to come down to the fact that it's a load of nonsense that belong in the stone age along with people that radicalised it.

We've wizened up.
 
That's a fair point and I think there's certainly an argument for saying that it wouldn't affect you personally. The trouble is how everyone else would react that would indirectly affect you. If tomorrow we discovered definitive proof that there is a god then a lot would happen. Religion and the church have a big influence on the world.

This is true. Now I have to change my entire stance! Damn you! :p
 
I guess I could call myself an apatheist. The whole question of the existence of a deity has no bearing on how I live my life and would have no bearing if it were definitively answered. I don't believe in a God and I don't believe there is value in asking if there is one (or more).

The question "Is there a God?" is about as useful to me as "Does Castiel own a rice cooker?"

I think you have probably go the argument of a lot of younger people today. religion and gods have no part of their lives. Its something religions have never faced up to because, I think, they pretend it isn't so. They seem to ignore the fact that holy books are so old, come from a different time and place and are not relevant to anyone these days.

Religion, defined as worship of gods will continue to decline though religions, as defined as Man United worship will probably continue.
 
Why do you think the UK and Europe in general is hardly religious at all anymore but America is still very religious?

Because although Americans are wonderful people in so many ways, there is something catastrophically wrong with their brains.
 
Seeing both sides of the debate you could argue that there is no logic to religion. If there is one creator of everything and he loves every living sole he creates then why does he allow the children he loves to suffer so much pain before they’re raped, abused and then murdered. Or why innocent people who have lead honest lives suddenly die burning in a car fire after an incident from a drunk driver occurs?

Stuff like that has no logic in it, some will say that this is God’s plan and that those victims will be rewarded greatly in the afterlife but what is the point in that when they may as well not has been created in the first place and avoid the suffering?

Can of worms I know but common sense and logic > * IMO.
 
Stuff like that has no logic in it, some will say that this is God’s plan and that those victims will be rewarded greatly in the afterlife but what is the point in that when they may as well not has been created in the first place and avoid the suffering?

To argue the other side for a moment, the god might be a sadistic god. Nothing says a creator has to be nice.
 
I just realized time travel is impossible.

Because if time travel was possible God would be able to do it, and he would know everything that was ever going to happen, so why bother waiting to see who is good or sinful? Why bother creating Earth at all.

The Back to the Future movies are actually quite blasphemous.
 
Seeing both sides of the debate you could argue that there is no logic to religion. If there is one creator of everything and he loves every living sole he creates then why does he allow the children he loves to suffer so much pain before they’re raped, abused and then murdered. Or why innocent people who have lead honest lives suddenly die burning in a car fire after an incident from a drunk driver occurs?

Stuff like that has no logic in it, some will say that this is God’s plan and that those victims will be rewarded greatly in the afterlife but what is the point in that when they may as well not has been created in the first place and avoid the suffering?

Can of worms I know but common sense and logic > * IMO.

Well if there is a God he must really like violence, because the natural world is built on the key principles of violent competition and predation. He must love wars. Or maybe violence is the medium required to distinguish good from evil, like how some monks wont even step on an insect.
 
Epicurus [341–270 B.C.] Greek philosopher:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
 
I guess I could call myself an apatheist. The whole question of the existence of a deity has no bearing on how I live my life and would have no bearing if it were definitively answered. I don't believe in a God and I don't believe there is value in asking if there is one (or more).

The question "Is there a God?" is about as useful to me as "Does Castiel own a rice cooker?"

Well thats pretty closed minded and stupid considering its responsible for some serious ****.
 
Well thats pretty closed minded and stupid considering its responsible for some serious ****.

Quite true but I'm pretty sure that how the majority of the population think. Look how few bother to go to any sort of worship more than once a year. There's about 10% of the population who are actively involved in their religion and most of the rest just can't be bothered with it.

How does one get people to take an interest in this sort of topic?
 
Because although Americans are wonderful people in so many ways, there is something catastrophically wrong with their brains.

Only religion is not only indicative in the American example, kwerk was a little off when he mentioned Europe in general...as there are several European Countries, Italy, Spain and Ireland spring to mind immediately, who for one reason or another would give the US a run for it's money regarding adherence to religion. I have just returned from the ROI for example where my 13 year old counted 58 separate Religious Grottos on the side of the road as we drove along.

I think historically the UK has always been rather irreverent when it came to organised religion, and it shows in our assumption of secularity without having to actually legislate it.
 
Only religion is not only indicative in the American example, kwerk was a little off when he mentioned Europe in general...as there are several European Countries, Italy, Spain and Ireland spring to mind immediately, who for one reason or another would give the US a run for it's money regarding adherence to religion. I have just returned from the ROI for example where my 13 year old counted 58 separate Religious Grottos on the side of the road as we drove along.

I think historically the UK has always been rather irreverent when it came to organised religion, and it shows in our assumption of secularity without having to actually legislate it.

It's difficult to legislate secularity when the head of state is also the head of the church.
 
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