I didnt realise scientists didnt know where life came from

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I always knew evolution was a theory, one I highly believe in.

I accept the fact that religion is part of society and it's often believed God played a part in human evolution.

I never realised however that scientists didn't actually know where life sparked.

They know where the first microbes were, they can show an evolutionary journey, Natural selection and the way creatures adapted and changed due to environmental changes.

The closest scientists have gotten to creating "life" was done by accident.

Amino acids have existed for along time but they aren't life(it's also not 100% certain they came about on earth). A test was done by scientists to see if amino acids could survive the impact that essentially created our moon. They simulated the massive pressure generated by the impact and pummelled the amino acids.

What they actually found was more than the survival of the amino acids, the force had created peptides, If you're unaware. Peptides make up proteins.

But there's a big jump from proteins, to DNA and life. Scientists cannot yet fill in the blanks!!

read :p

there was an article in the new scientist on this subject in the last few months,

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single cell = very easy...

cells don't get energy the way you think (unless you are in the know)

it took 2 billion years to go from single cell to multi cell

remember when you think about how unlikely x y or z is you have (well had) 4.5 billion years to roll the die (maybe minus a few where verythign was 1000 degrees +) and you can roll them billions of times a second...
 
In this case, you're mistaking the word "theory" with hypothesis. That is: evolution isn't some idea, it is a proven fact. It's not something you need to decide you believe in.

As for the origins of life "The selfish gene" by richard dawkins covers this and it is a fasconating read. Basically "life" or at least its building blocks were created pretty randomly actually. It took one of whatever it was to spontaneously form and replicate. It was an unlikely event but there were litterally hundreds of millions of years in its favour.
 
Basically "life" or at least its building blocks were created pretty randomly actually. It took one of whatever it was to spontaneously form and replicate. It was an unlikely event but there were litterally hundreds of millions of years in its favour.

I'm aware of this, it was mentioned in the OP :p The randomness was basically water, H20 and HD0, which was generated by meteors made of frozen ice hitting earth and melting(these formed out seas) and also steam from volcanos. These gave us general elements such as Oxygen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Calcium and metals. Lightening, Heat and radiation took these elements and created amino acids. And then the great impact(A meteor the size of mars) plus thousands upon thousands of other impacts during the early stages of earths development will have pounded amino acids into peptides. But that's where things go dark, we dont know the next steps.

Peptides > wingardium leviosa > Life
 
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there was an article in the new scientist on this subject in the last few months,

my post will lack serious information sorry about that...

single cell = very easy...

cells don't get energy the way you think (unless you are in the know)

it took 2 billion years to go from single cell to multi cell

remember when you think about how unlikely x y or z is you have (well had) 4.5 billion years to roll the die (maybe minus a few where verythign was 1000 degrees +) and you can roll them billions of times a second...

I think I might have read that. Multi cell organisms came together because the individual cells could survive better working together. Instead of being a cell of all trades it could focus on one job and rely on the other cells to do other jobs. Each cell started getting these different jobs and communicating with each other. After a while it begins to look like a proper animal but really it's just individual cells working together and communicating in a symbiotic system.

It sounds really obvious but as a human you're not really a single unit. You're just a bunch of basic cells with specialized jobs who work together to survive.
 
I was reading recently that they think the origin of life on earth might have come from meteorites or space dust.

That doesn't answer the question though. If life started on planet Zog and was transported here on meteorites, then how did it get started on planet Zog?
 
chemical and physical processes and a billions of years of chance reactions.

Indeed, there's more I never mentioned, like the fact the meteor that hit earth, that was the size of mars caused the earth to tilt, it fused with our planet, and the part that broke off became our moon, Held in orbit by our Molten magnetic core! Moon causes tides, Tilt causes seasons.

It's all relative to life. It all sets the stage. But we arent aware of how the actors were commissioned :p

Also seems mental when you think about it... I know we say aliens must exist out there in the universe. But if it took all these reactions to create life, or all these events lead to whatever sparked life. Seems insane to think the same events happened elsewhere
 
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chemical and physical processes and a billions of years of chance reactions.

Which could just as easily have happened on Earth. Not billions of years, but about 500 million, which is still a pretty long time. Doesn't mean it's not true, just that it doesn't help explain abiogenesis.
 
Also seems mental when you think about it... I know we say aliens must exist out there in the universe. But if it took all these reactions to create life, or all these events lead to whatever sparked life. Seems insane to think the same events happened elsewhere

200 billion stars in a galaxy, 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe. Suddenly, it doesn't seem so unlikely, does it? :p
 
In this case, you're mistaking the word "theory" with hypothesis. That is: evolution isn't some idea, it is a proven fact. It's not something you need to decide you believe in.

It's taught as fact by those who refuse to even consider the possibility of intelligent design.
 
It's taught as fact by those who refuse to even consider the possibility of intelligent design.

Evolution has lots of evidence in its favour. The evidence for intelligent design is non-existent.

Bingo. One side has endless proof in any form you may want, while the other side has no proof whatsoever, and a multitude of thing disproving it.

Now, which one do you side with? :D
 
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