XPS 15, good choice?

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Work laptop, choice was between macbook pro and dell, couldnt really go for a gaming laptop.

Ended up on the 512gb ssd version of the xps 15, also read about playing bf3 on it for no more than 15mins due to overheating. still waiting for it, but hoping it doesnt overheat too much due to wanting vmware on it.
 
There is a known throtling issue with the xps droping the cpu to something like 1.7ghz when it gets hot. I dont belive the GPU drops though. so it means cpu intensive games will be hit hard.

People are also having wifi issues with the new xps15
 
There is a known throtling issue with the xps droping the cpu to something like 1.7ghz when it gets hot. I dont belive the GPU drops though. so it means cpu intensive games will be hit hard.

People are also having wifi issues with the new xps15

The recent BIOS update (A06) changed the throttling from the CPU to the GPU, meaning that as soon as the GPU huts 80c (Which it does very quickly), the GPU throttles back massively, and you end up with something around the same performance as the iGPU on the CPU. The CPU stays at full speed which is great, but makes no difference when you're playing with a crippled GPU.

The Wi-Fi issue is another issue. Don't expect to get any sort of normal speed from the Wi-Fi (assuming you're affected), there's some sort of bug/hardware fault which is causing a lot of people to have abysmal speeds.
 
Been trying to google for more information, but many different specs of the laptop dont see that much information on the 16gb version.

it was bought for work/vmware/demo of software running... just hoped i could load bf3 on it at a later date..
 
Been trying to google for more information, but many different specs of the laptop dont see that much information on the 16gb version.

it was bought for work/vmware/demo of software running... just hoped i could load bf3 on it at a later date..

The amount of RAM won't make any difference to the Wi-Fi or throttling issues. The throttling is purely down to the heat output of the CPU/GPU, it's possible that lower power components wouldn't suffer from the same throttling, but that's kind of pointless if you're stuck with lower powered components from the beginning. The actual cause of the Wi-Fi issue isn't known for sure, but it seems to affect most systems, regardless of specification specifics.

The laptop should be fine for general work, especially if the tasks are CPU intensive, as the throttling has now been moved to the GPU. Gaming is still the grey area, I'd be interested if you can post and let us know how you get on with it.
 
Already looking for a mini wifi plug into the wall style access point, which can join wifi and extend.

Seen them on US version of the rain forest but cant see them here.

Requirements, Can create a wifi network from a wired connection, and this is the bonus im looking for at the moment, can join other wifi and extend/create a new wifi using the paid hotspot as a gateway.


Palm-Size Portable Mini Travel 2 in 1 Wireless N 802.11n/g WLAN Network Router / Client Adapter

and

TP Link TL-WR702N 150Mbps Wireless N Nano Router

Wireless Modes: AP Mode, Router Mode ,Client Mode, Repeater Mode, Bridge Mode

I just can't find if the Client mode enables AP mode to work at the same time, so i can connect to it as another ssid -- edit.. no it cannot, wifi client uses the wan port to connect to your laptop.
 
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First day it could possibly turn up is today, but no update on the website so i'm not expecting it yet!

Also could be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Monday and Tuesday.
 
Ok first off.. I just wrote quite a long post, and the trackpad made me LOSE it..

Out the box
Wifi
15mbit close to router
1mbit on stairs

New drivers marked urgent on the dell site.
15mbit close to router
4-5mbit on stairs 7-8m away

Bit further
speed test showing 4mbit
macbook pro c2d2.4 15mbit
download off the net did seem to manage 15mbit / 1.5mb / 1500k which was a 16gig download.

Yes speed test is awful way of testing it, but it does give a rough idea which is all i wanted for now.

Screen, seems really bad at times, video seems meh and icons seem pixelated, 5 year old macbookpro is still sharper.

trackpack omg... i really am hating it at the moment, its a work in progress. Been tweaking settings for it, and starting to be able to use this as a laptop, rather than a computer with a mouse plugged into it.

This was much longer, more detailed and actually effort into writing it, but second time around the effort went down!
 
I just ordered one of these and was thinking of cancelling it if these issues are really bad. anyone got further updates?
 
Ok so I've got a XPS 15 L502x.. try and help if I can but we might not have the same issues from the get go.

When I got mine last year the thing to check was the usb ports all work as expected for various devices (ext hd and pendrive) as 1 of mine wouldn't and they replaced the miniboard for it.

The next thing to do is not play music too loud as the speakers sound ace but the left speaker did die.. not sure if it was faulty but it died none the less

Also from sleep does your wireless jump straight back on or do you have to wait 5 minutes for it to find itsself again? if so you need a new wifi card.


I like my laptop - dell fixed all the issues but I did read a load of horror stories on the net and the dell site.. I'd go with the home fixing engineer option rather than posting it away ever.


The laptop does get hot - I keep mine elevated slightly and usually on a cooling pad but it still gets hot... think I'll take out the DVD drive and put in a ssd and maybe try and sort some better cooling or reapply some thermal paste.

I don't game on it sorry so can't let you know how that is but it's been fine with premier and after effects renders.


THE TRACKPAD - the sensitivity and other things can be changed in the settings - I hated mine when I got it but loved it the day after I played with the settings.
 
Thought I should add... would I buy one again?

Probably but with the knowledge that I won't be gaming.. the build quality of the keyboard and laptop in general is ace.. I should have gone for the better screen option though - but thats my only gripe.

Was tempted to sell and get a macbook to match operating systems with my other system but I quite like being between op systems
 
I have an L502x with the 1920 screen and I love it. I have had it for about 3 months now with no issues whatsoever.

It will be getting a 256GB SSD in the DVD tray shortly.
 
I'll post a bit of a update later.

In short I've now managed to play bf3 for around 1hour, it seems to run over if not connected to the powersupply. When connected to a powersupply, i did notice slightly less throttleing when the gpu was underclocked.

When plugged in on normal settings, it does throttle like crazy.
 
Well I got the 512gb SSD with 16gb ram version, I am not gaming just work and general media.

Fingers crossed I dont get the wireless issues.
 
I can see me saying MacBook Pro(MPB) a few times due to just how much this laptop screams Dell trying to bring out something which trys to be in the same league. I own an older MBP and I've used the newer models at work.

I'll start off by saying, I've used MBP's with Windows on via bootcamp and VMWare. I didn't have driver issues, I was happy with drivers released for them by Apple and they always did the job required of them. The touch pad is a joy to use even in windows.

The Dell, 2.1GHz, 16Gb Ram, 512Gb SSD, 640m 2Gb. 15Inch HD Screen.

Case, Happy with the design and feels well built enough.

CPU, More than most but could be better, its still more than enough

RAM, Well its Memory it kinda helps.

Screen, At times it appears high quality, but when I compare it to other older laptops or even my 27ich display on my desktop (which is sadly dvi only and isnt supported by the laptop). Other times it looks almost patchy behind whatever is on the screen. Very hard to discribe, I've read some people talk online about a grid issue but I don't fully understand this. I almost want to say it looks like a painiting canvas behind the image. Not flat, not blank/solid as you would expect. Only example I can think of which could be more todo with drivers or Windows Areo only using the HD4000 iGPU. The AA on icons seems wrong, Chrome icon looks fine but Dropbox's is all pixelated around the edges. When compared to a 5 year old laptop it makes this new screen look pretty awful.

I'm also in two minds about when video content is playing, maybe I'm just used to something better but it doesnt seem to be as good as I'd expect for a laptop of this price compared to Lattitude E6400 which is quite old and a C2D MBP.

GPU, Noticed when plugged in it throttles back to 125MHz from 640 iirc within about 30seconds. I'm still doing more tests on this as until the other night I had not been able to game on it at all. Unplugged BF3 ran at low res, with low settings 60-100fps and about 45-60fps on 720 again with low but honestly dont think the textures made much of a difference to when it thottles. Anyway unplugged for around an hour. Full 2000ticket 48player map iirc.

Plugging the laptop in, instantly got it throttled back to 125MHz, I then underclocked the GPU by about -125 (max) and it seemed to throttle less. I was noticeing red 15fps, and then a decent amount of 30-40 compared to orignally it was almost better playing it on the HD4000 which doesnt overheat at all, and the laptop stays at a nice resonable temp.

Touchpad, It really is trying to be same as MBP, but i find with this one I constantly knock it when typeing I did adjust settings and it improved. Settings do not appear to be sticking on reboot, and still are far from perfect imo. I've ended up disableing tap to click, so i have to click the buttons at the bottom but mostly I used a mouse. I still have not found a shortcut to disable to trackpad rather than clicking the actual program and disabling it. Which can get out of sync, as the laptop has a automatic fetchure that if you move the trackpad about a bit while its disabled it turns it back on.

Keyboard I like!

Oh I like the black Windows and Intel i7 stickers too!
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WiFi, Its ok with the update. I've yet to test it in a hotel or an airport. I've actually bought a nano WiFi dongle, not that I expect a tiny thing like that to be much of an improvement. I figured I can test theses and my old Linksys G 54 usb thingy when I'm away next. I still seem to get shocking speeds with things such at speed test, any kind of distance its down to 4 or 6mb internet speed test compared to my phone or laptop which are still getting close to 15 still. Any kind of longer downloads seems to get reasonable speeds. It honestly is pretty shocking they can screw something like this up, compared to SGS3, MBP and another dell laptop the WiFi on this new laptop just can't keep up. For general internet access, it is good enough aslong as I can still get connected to crappy Hotel WiFi's.

Also worth noteing, with my old Linksys USB dongle the laptop sat in my garden can see many more networks and the int-WiFi still can only see mine.

USB, USB/Wireless Mouse I bought with the laptop, started to lag when using USB3 Memory stick at the same time. I did not notice this problem with a WD Pocket USB3 drive, and my phone connected. Removing the memory stick appeared to fix the issue. Not really looked into it yet.
There is a recovery partition but no option to boot to it. I've read that under windows repair there is a restore option I've yet to check this out.

BD/DVDRW When creating the restore media, I was unable change disks quickly. It ejected the disk up to 4 times before accepting it. It seemed to want around 30seconds after ejecting a disk before another can be inserted.
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I'm annoyed that for a laptop that is close to pefect spec for what I need it for, the WiFi has theses issues as I wouldn't even mind the GPU problem if I atleast knew for sure I had decent range on the wireless card.
Saying that, I can run 4-5 VM's all with 2Gb ram each, one with 4. Most been dual core but one having access to all 8. Not noticeing any slowdown at all, even when transcoding. This little laptop is running 4 Servers and 1 to control the rest, outputting over host only network to each other and one shareing the content out. Stick this on a network and you can access any of the content via a webpage.

Ok so I just kept typeing, I fully exect this to of not read very well.

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Screen, after watching an actual blueray disk the screen seems to looks great. I think I need to look at drivers, to improve general windows use.

Icons seem to be much better with text scaling changed to 100% from default of 125%.
 
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Am thinking of getting the same spec.

Not sure if i should, you mention gaming throttling and screen issues.

How do you feel about it after 6 months?
 
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