Any reason against this car? MG ZT 190

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I've liked the MG ZT for quite a while, but usually could never find any nice ones so didn't really pursue it. However I saw

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201222474403393/sort/pricedesc/usedcars/model/zt/make/mg/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/page/1/radius/1500/keywords/190/postcode/ox13bn?logcode=p

Which looks quite good to me (bar the spoiler), but I thought I'd ask if there's anything specific I should look out for (problem wise) with these cars?

Cheers.
 
Has anyone slating the ZT 190 actually driven or owned one? I bet the answer is no - this place is full of Clarksons.

They're a very agile and quick car for their size, the V6 is all-aluminium so nice and light which helps the handling, not having a tonne of boat engine to point around corners helps the 190 stand out on twisty roads.

I loved mine, it was a reliable car and a total hoot to drive. Had an 03 plate, but only paid 900 odd quid for it - 3 grand is far too much for anything that age IMO. Mine had 130k on the clock and drove like something with half the miles. Had full auto wipers and dimming rear view, parking sensors and onboard computer. Not to mention the 8 speaker sound system, some only had 6. Bit of a steal!

Few pointers:

- it'd be preferable to find one that's had the cambelts and waterpump changed (all done at the same time) as it's around 500 quid.

- Clutch hydraulics can be weak, slave cylinders are concentric and thus do wear and are affected by heat. Expect to pay around 60 quid for a slave, 100 quid for a decent clutch and 5-6 hours labour to have it changed if needed. Master cylinders are also a little weak but are easy to change, although cost around 100 quid.

- Thermostat is located in the V of the engine, and can crack with age. Replacements are 50 quid and can be changed by an amateur mechanic and in a lazy afternoon.

- Inlet manifolds have swirl flaps, the shaft locating bearings can wear slightly meaning the flaps rattle at idle. It doesn't affect power too much, but the noise is pretty nasty. No reports of total failure yet, just irritating and ruins an otherwise nice car. 100 quid gets you a good 2nd hand manifold. Some seem to last forever!

Apart from that, all spares are still available and the second hand parts market is full of bits to lower the cost of ownership.

It handles and drives nothing like a 75, and I think I'm probably the only person really qualified to make that comment as you'll find all the 'haters' on here have probably never had any experience with either car, just like to follow the crowd. Comments such as
its a Rover
just show how little you know about either car.

Drive one, have a feel of what you think of the build quality, and make the decision based on what you think, not because some armchair 'experts' on an internet forum parrot back what they've heard from others like mindless idiots.

My pound sign key is broken, hence the use of quid. :p
 
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Has anyone slating the ZT 190 actually driven or owned one? I bet the answer is no - this place is full of Clarksons.

They're a very agile and quick car for their size, the V6 is all-aluminium so nice and light which helps the handling, not having a tonne of boat engine to point around corners helps the 190 stand out on twisty roads.

I loved mine, it was a reliable car and a total hoot to drive. Had an 03 plate, but only paid 900 odd quid for it - 3 grand is far too much for anything that age IMO. Mine had 130k on the clock and drove like something with half the miles. Had full auto wipers and dimming rear view, parking sensors and onboard computer. Not to mention the 8 speaker sound system, some only had 6. Bit of a steal!

Few pointers:

- it'd be preferable to find one that's had the cambelts and waterpump changed (all done at the same time) as it's around 500 quid.

- Clutch hydraulics can be weak, slave cylinders are concentric and thus do wear and are affected by heat. Expect to pay around 60 quid for a slave, 100 quid for a decent clutch and 5-6 hours labour to have it changed if needed. Master cylinders are also a little weak but are easy to change, although cost around 100 quid.

- Thermostat is located in the V of the engine, and can crack with age. Replacements are 50 quid and can be changed by an amateur mechanic and in a lazy afternoon.

- Inlet manifolds have swirl flaps, the shaft locating bearings can wear slightly meaning the flaps rattle at idle. It doesn't affect power too much, but the noise is pretty nasty. No reports of total failure yet, just irritating and ruins an otherwise nice car. 100 quid gets you a good 2nd hand manifold. Some seem to last forever!

Apart from that, all spares are still available and the second hand parts market is full of bits to lower the cost of ownership.

It handles and drives nothing like a 75, and I think I'm probably the only person really qualified to make that comment as you'll find all the 'haters' on here have probably never had any experience with either car, just like to follow the crowd. Comments such as just show how little you know about either car.

Drive one, have a feel of what you think of the build quality, and make the decision based on what you think, not because some armchair 'experts' on an internet forum parrot back what they've heard from others like mindless idiots.

My pound sign key is broken, hence the use of quid. :p

Thanks for the advice. Looking at others, it does seem overpriced.

What do you think about this one?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...3bn/page/2/keywords/190/radius/1500?logcode=p

Thanks.
 
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My pound sign key is broken, hence the use of quid. :p

Sums up Rover ownership :p two colleagues have them at work, one is fully working but he dares drive it as it keeps falling apart, so he's has had everything fixed and is trying to sell it ....... for about a year, other has one as a daily driver and everything electrical has stopped working but yes it still keeps moving forward.

LOL Rover
 
Did you know the MGTF tooling costs were the same as a 5 series dashboard.

Rover made had some great innovations, unfortunately not enough money. Even the k series was ruined by penny pinchers. (I work with a few people who worked on the k series design and some of their stories are amazing)
 
But that's the thing, I can tell you stories off all makes and models where people have issues. Fact is that both the ZS and ZT got decent reviews, especially in 190 spec.

EVO like theirs on the long term test:
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/35704/mg_ztt190.html

Very positive reviews from "the internet", which is usally the first place people **** things off rather than praise:
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews6987.html

Fact is that they are good cars - not as good as the BMW alternatives, but still worth a look.
 
The ZT190 is an excellent car. One of my friends has one and I've driven it a few times. It's solidly built, reliable and faster than you think.
I like them a lot.
 
Having owned a car with that series of V6, I can say this. The engine is a shocker, spins up very high very quick, and makes a nice noise too. I loved mine anyway!
 
The ZT is an excellent car - the 75 was arguably the finest product ever to come out of Longbridge. And £2995 for a 26k mile 04 plate example hardly seems excessive. I'm sure you can find cheaper ones but why compromise on condition and quality to save a few quid?
 
Because you'll never ever move it on again for anything like that price, ok its not 20k the op would be spending but its all relative. At 2k, absolutely but at 3 its silly money for the car
 
Because you'll never ever move it on again for anything like that price,

It's £3k! Who honestly cares about moving it on for the same price when we are talking about £3k cars? Use it for a few years and chuck it in the bin if you are that bothered and it's still cost you naff all in depreciation.
 
Because you'll never ever move it on again for anything like that price, ok its not 20k the op would be spending but its all relative. At 2k, absolutely but at 3 its silly money for the car

I disagree.
Show me another in that condition and mileage. Who cares about £3k anyway? It's £3k!!! Not £30k. He could run it for a year and then weigh it in and still have spent less than the vast majority of car owners do in depreciation.
 
Irrelevant I could spend 3k on that car tomorrow keep it for 3 years then bin it or spend 2k on it in 4 weekstime when it hasn't sold, keep it for 3 years then bin it.

Just because its only a few grand rather than multiples of ten doesn't mean its a good idea to pay (what I would say) is about 50% over the odds for the thing.

Its not exactly a rare car the ZT
 
Nice looking cars, Not heard anything bad about them myself. It's the ZR and TF you hear bad things about (even the ZS isn't too bad)

It's unlikely he will end up paying screen price anyway. It's a hell of a LOT of car for £3k though isn't it? I'd have it.
 
Irrelevant I could spend 3k on that car tomorrow keep it for 3 years then bin it or spend 2k on it in 4 weekstime when it hasn't sold, keep it for 3 years then bin it.

Just because its only a few grand rather than multiples of ten doesn't mean its a good idea to pay (what I would say) is about 50% over the odds for the thing

This makes senses. I think you got your points the wrong way around originally.

My parents had a 75 2.0 kv6. It is the quietest and smoothest car I have ever been in.
 
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It's £3k! Who honestly cares about moving it on for the same price when we are talking about £3k cars? Use it for a few years and chuck it in the bin if you are that bothered and it's still cost you naff all in depreciation.

I agree with you to an extent, it's not like we're talking about a 30k car worth only 25k. I also don't do very many miles at all, so even after 3 years the car wouldn't even have 25,000 miles on it - which could make it still fairly sell-able when considering the mileage. As you said though, I'm not really concerned about depreciation on it what-so-ever, much more concerned about it not breaking down every 100 miles.
 
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