US official killed in embassy raid in Libya

RDM · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:56

The film* in question was released a a couple of months ago so the timing was somewhat convenient. Rent a mob anyone?

*alternatively a hate filled propoganda piece to be more honest about it.

RDM · 12 Sep 2012 at 11:59

wordy said:
There are 100's of millions of muslims who have have made a conscious decision to not to get involved in any acts of violence, why not judge muslims on that rather than a tiny minority of thugs?

You could instead judge it on the human rights records of the countries where it holds sway, I am sure that would paint a much more positive picture!

quickshot89 · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:03

Just to add, the person who has died was a long term eve player who was once on the CSM, the eve forums are going mental with RIP's

Edit: Someone has already mentioned it was Vile Rat

mmj_uk · 12 Sep 2012 at 12:05

[TW]Fox;22751704 said:
Why would you burn down a totally unrelated organisations building anyway? It wasn't even the people responsible for whatever it was they didnt like!

Perhaps it went like this:

Libyan: "Death to America, you destroyed our country, killed Colonel Gaddafi and installed terrorists (rebels) as our government."
BBC: Militiamen burn down US consulate over a video tape.

Dis86 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:02

RDM said:
You could instead judge it on the human rights records of the countries where it holds sway, I am sure that would paint a much more positive picture!

Oh no, don't support my arguement! You'll be classed as a bigot and a troll too!

MiKeOnE10110 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:05

Surprise surprise, Muslims killing people because of their religion. RIP to those these lunatics have killed. I sleep well at night knowing our government allows Islamic schools, where kids are sitting in trance like states reciting their book over and over while being taught to hate everything about our way of life.

Even better is the useful idiots who defend this madness, I wonder if those who defend them would be so quick to do so if it were one of their family members who were killed or one of their daughters who were raped by Islamic sex gangs. So yeah lets keep on defending the indefensible and see where it gets us.

wordy · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:10

MiKeOnE10110 said:
Surprise surprise, Muslims killing people because of their religion. RIP to those these lunatics have killed. I sleep well at night knowing our government allows Islamic schools, where kids are sitting in trance like states reciting their book over and over while being taught to hate everything about our way of life.

Even better is the useful idiots who defend this madness, I wonder if those who defend them would be so quick to do so if it were one of their family members who were killed or one of their daughters who were raped by Islamic sex gangs. So yeah lets keep on defending the indefensible and see where it gets us.

Here's my equally intelligent retort....

STFU!!!!!! :mad:

MiKeOnE10110 · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:26

wordy said:
Here's my equally intelligent retort....

STFU!!!!!!

I see you're a man of "faith".

martian_aphid · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:26

This is obviously a heated discussion but my opinion is that Libya, like a number of middle east countries, have quite an ingrained violent culture, I believe that is why they have often had very strong and dictatorial leaders. I think the fact is that when these leaders are removed the new freedoms ultimately appear to lead to voilent outbreaks and I wouldn't be suprised to see similar unrest to that now rife in other "democratised" middle eastern countries.

As far as this event goes though, there is really no justification for it, just wanton killing

Kazz · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:39

Islam, a bit like Christianity only a few hundred years behind. Don't forget that "we" (western world) were as nuts as these extremists one, thankfully a growing slice of the Islamic world see this sort of behavior as unacceptable in this day and age.

But they'll always be nutters using things like religion as a tool to justify their actions.

Vanilla · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:40

Stolen from Reddit,

Ironic Islam

Craterloads · 12 Sep 2012 at 13:44

Whats the big deal?

These Libyan rebels stormed the embassy and killed people....

Americans fire missiles everyday that kill people....

do_ron_ron · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:13

Craterloads said:
Whats the big deal?

These Libyan rebels stormed the embassy and killed people....

Americans fire missiles everyday that kill people....

The Govt/media message is the West kills suspected militants whereas they kill innocent civilians.

You have merely translated the propaganda spin.

shoes · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:15

Half of me wonders if islam is convenient and if it wasn't there they'd just find another way to 'justify' being absolute ****s.

Same applies to most other organised religions too of course. So, die hard follower of fairy tails or convenient excuse for a spot of maiming and killing?

shoes · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:25

wordy said:
Do we have to do this each time an individual does something wrong in the name of islam?

Do you not think this happens worryingly often?

Craterloads · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:31

shoes said:
Do you not think this happens worryingly often?

Dont you think its worrying often the amount of times Americans kill civilians? or kill people that are not in a state of combat via drones?

Americans kill in the name of democracy, these guys are killing in the name of religion (this is what we are told, they might not just like Americans for all we know and is completly understandable)

Heck the Libyans killed an American Ambassador, a political figure.

shoes · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:34

Craterloads said:
Dont you think its worrying often the amount of times Americans kill civilians? or kill people that are not in a state of combat via drones?

Americans kill in the name of democracy, these guys are killing in the name of religion (this is what we are told, they might not just like Americans for all we know and is completly understandable)

Heck the Libyans killed an American Ambassador, a polical figure.

I wasn't commenting on the americans though, was I. At all.

I was responding to a post made about islam, with a comment about islam.

At no point was there a mention of the americans.

Please read my post in future before replying with something completely irrelevant.

Dis86 · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:35

Yeah the Americans kill civilians - by mistake. I don't think even the most jaded amongst us would say they deliberately target them.

Also, the Americans have made it clear they will do what they must to defend their country and their people from real threats, not from cartoons or films that say nasty mean things!

Craterloads · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:38

Dis86 said:
Yeah the Americans kill civilians - by mistake. I don't think even the most jaded amongst us would say they deliberately target them.

Also, the Americans have made it clear they will do what they must to defend their country and their people from real threats, not from cartoons or films that say nasty mean things!

How many mistakes can one make before its stops being a mistake.

Are drone strikes mistakes against people in non combat situations?

How do you know they killed the ambassador over a cartoon/film, they may just dislike the Americans since they bombed their country to smithereens.

Craterloads · 12 Sep 2012 at 14:39

shoes said:
I wasn't commenting on the americans though, was I. At all.

I was responding to a post made about islam, with a comment about islam.

At no point was there a mention of the americans.

Please read my post in future before replying with something completely irrelevant.

Its releveant as what goes around comes around.