US official killed in embassy raid in Libya

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Also note how the media are totaly overlooking the fact that this film was made by Jews/Israeli interests and portrayed as being american. All in all I sense a sophisticated Psy-Op.

It is the person that doesn't exist tha said it was funded by Jews. Why exactly would the Israelis admit to funding it if they were trying to keep their involvement secret?

when you fight with fire expect to get burnt! Don't these clowns learn from Salmon Rushdie or whatever that tools name was?

It wasn't the people that made the video that are getting "burned" so your assanine statement makes little sense. Not that insulting a religion deserves death regardless.
 
when you fight with fire expect to get burnt! Don't these clowns learn from Salmon Rushdie or whatever that tools name was?

Britain saw it's fair share of Muslim unrest and outrage over the Salman Rushdie affair - we had Burning of the Union flag, calls for Rushdies death etc as well as a Fatwa being issued throughout the Islamic world. All because of a ****ing book which the UK government at the time, quite rightly wouldn't ban to pacify them.

Curiously, most of the outraged protestors who were interviewed by the media at the time, admitted that they hadn't actually read Rushdie's book, Satanic Verses, but had been told it was offensive and therefore they were protesting because of this! :eek:

I suspect there are parallels to be drawn here with the release of the film.
 
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when you fight with fire expect to get burnt! Don't these clowns learn from Salmon Rushdie or whatever that tools name was?

The guy who got a knighthood, much more fame and press attention than he'd have got for his book otherwise - not to mention a decent amount of money... and he's still alive and well, living in NYC.

yeah that told him...
 
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is apparently the creator, a Coptic Christian, who intentionally tried to blame Jews for his work to ratchet up tensions between Jews and Muslims.

And tragically 10 innocent people are dead, whilst a lot of the blame is on his head, as he only had one intention for this movie, but most of it goes to the retarded protestors.
 
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I've just read this too :eek:

that was mentioned on the first page of this thread

he'd also noted online hours before the attack that things weren't quite right - mentioning a Libyan policeman outside seen taking pictures of the compound
 
You've never heard of freedom of expression I take it?

If I was to cuss your mum and call her a whore would that be freedom of expression? (Just giving an example no need for the mods to drop the ban hammer)

Sure you can have your say but then when you know it will cause provocation, hurt, redicule and insult millions then why do it?

People do anything to be in the Limelight.
 
The guy who got a knighthood, much more fame and press attention than he'd have got for his book otherwise - not to mention a decent amount of money... and he's still alive and well, living in NYC.

yeah that told him...

same as gert weilders or that priest who wanted "burn a quran day", people will do anything for attention and use public sympathy to line their pockets.
 
Quoted from Mr Patrick Cockburn article 13 September 2012, I from 'The Independent'

' The murder of the American Ambassador and his staff in Benghazi is retaliation for a US made video slandering the Prophet Mohammed will have serious repercussions in the US weeks before the Presidential election.
The killings undercut President Obama's claim that killing Osama Bin Laden was a deathblow to Jihadi Islam.
Anything that reminds the US voters of 9/11 has political implications.
Deaths of US soldiers in Afghanistan no longer have the impact they once did. But there is something shocking and new about the death of Mr Stevens
the first American Ambassador to be killed anywhere in the world since 1979.

The Libyan revolution was never quite as it was portrayed at the time. True that it's leaders in Benghazi were astute from the beginning to play down the role of Islamic militants in the uprising. In reality, the rebels were always more violent and anarchic than was reported.

The truth is that the Arab Spring uprisings, not just Libya but across the Arab world, drew much of their explosive strength from the combination of very different people and strands of opinion united by hatred of oppressive and corrupt autocracies.

It is not that the revolutions were anti-American or anti-Western. It is rather that, for decades, Arab rulers almost instinctively took pro-western positions in opposition to the wishes of their own people.
From the beginning demonstrators were clear that they would not countenance the degree of foreign intervention to which their rulers had previously bowed.

This was true in Egypt, but it also resonated in Libya despite the victory of the insurgents depending entirely on foreign intervention.

There are still plenty of people in Western armies and intelligence services who feel nostalgia for the old ways of doing things, when they dealt with a compliant Egyptian army and did not have to worry about democratically elected Muslim Brothers or other more extremes.

The Arab Spring was never a collective vote in favor of Western states, but a series of real revolutions that have other surprises, both good and nasty,in store. '


The above is a good understanding of what the Middle Eastern consensus is. Mr Cockburn is insightful regarding the dynamics at play in the region at the moment.

Real revolutions are never neat and tidy, they tend to be horrendously messy. What we are seeing now is the continuation of the Arab Spring.
Hopefully, once the dust finally settles something may eventually take shape.
 
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is apparently the creator, a Coptic Christian, who intentionally tried to blame Jews for his work to ratchet up tensions between Jews and Muslims.

And tragically 10 innocent people are dead, whilst a lot of the blame is on his head, as he only had one intention for this movie, but most of it goes to the retarded protestors.

Not content with that, he's now working on his latest film, 'Buddha is Fat'.
 
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is apparently the creator, a Coptic Christian, who intentionally tried to blame Jews for his work to ratchet up tensions between Jews and Muslims.

And tragically 10 innocent people are dead, whilst a lot of the blame is on his head, as he only had one intention for this movie, but most of it goes to the retarded protestors.

Let's be frank about this... No blame should be placed on the person/people behind that video. If we do, then the violence has won, and free speech and common sense has lost to religious fanatics again.
 
If I was to cuss your mum and call her a whore would that be freedom of expression? (Just giving an example no need for the mods to drop the ban hammer)

Sure you can have your say but then when you know it will cause provocation, hurt, redicule and insult millions then why do it?

People do anything to be in the Limelight.

Yes it would be freedom of speech, I don't get upset easily. Not that calling someones mum a whore and insulting something that doesn't exist is even the same thing.

I dont care if its 2 muslims or 2 billion, if they want to be offended thats their problem, it doesnt give them the right to burn down buildings and kill people.
 
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Let's be frank about this... No blame should be placed on the person/people behind that video. If we do, then the violence has won, and free speech and common sense has lost to religious fanatics again.

So you would like the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 to be struck from the law books in this country then?
 
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