The 5:2 diet?

i read today that bread is not actually the sin it was once thought when it comes to weight loss?

i'm not sure i agree with this, as whenever i have cut bread out for a few weeks, i definitely cut body fat.
 
cm1179 said:
i read today that bread is not actually the sin it was once thought when it comes to weight loss?

i'm not sure i agree with this, as whenever i have cut bread out for a few weeks, i definitely cut body fat.
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You ensure you have rda protein and fat then top up to your target calories with carbs. This can be bread.
 
its about having high igf-1 levels , keep them low they say you will look younger, live longer. eat too much , protein..ect then increases your igf-1. was a tv programme on not so long ago about it.
 
Sleeve88 said:
i do a similar diet to this.

Eat what I want for 2 days a week (Saturday and Sunday0

Then from Monday to Friday limit my calories to 1000 per day, plus doing the insanity workout 4 days per week and I've been losing a steady 2lbs per week for the past 2 months.
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This sounds like someone I work with, who I was chatting to this about earlier, who lives in Cambridgeshire... Hang on, where do you work?
 
cm1179 said:
i read today that bread is not actually the sin it was once thought when it comes to weight loss?

i'm not sure i agree with this, as whenever i have cut bread out for a few weeks, i definitely cut body fat.
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What bread you eat can make all the difference.

Wholemeal bread = some protein, fibre, carbohydrates.

White bread = carbohydrates
 
I just eat dinner and that's it. If i try to spread out a reduced amount of calories through out the day the chance of me cracking and stuffing my face with a pie is much greater. If I don't eat anything until the evening then I can just have all the calories in one go.

It's a form of intermittent fasting. I lose about 1kg a week unless the weekend turns out to be rather boozy, I still lose though as my weeky calorie intake is lower than my weekly expenditure.
 
right nutrition is very very easy to understand

You eat less energy (calories) then you use in doing exercise or daily living (basic metabolic rate) = weight loss fatty!

no need for these shoddy diets, calorie control works as does exercise

eating 20,000 calories over 5 days then not eating for 2 isnt going to make you lose weight
 
I think ive just done the 5:2 diet too...

Drank 5 times more alcohol than I do in 2 weeks, everyday for 2 weeks. Needless to say I now need to go on ultra detox
 
Alex53 said:
The full BBC programme here:
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Thanks for posting that but it's such BS!

There are just too many factors to say that yea, do this and you'll live longer, you just don't know. Steve Jobs was a known vegetarian... what did he die of again?

And most importantly, genetics. It's the most important factor and probably 90% of the deciding factor or what happens to you.

And what's the point of living till 100 years anyway, when you restrict everything and don't try anything in life? You're going to die regardless, there is no escape, except you're going to delay it by a minuscule amount and in return you're going to deprive yourself of one of the greatest pleasures of life.

I remember reading an old article about a Brazilian man who invented Gracie Jiu Jitsu(martial arts), called Helio Gracie and he lived a long time and when they asked him what was his secret, he said that he never ate chocolate, never drank coffee, etc... never this, never that... and in the end what happened to him? That's right he died anyway. Yet he did not experience anything in life.

If you really enjoy this type of a lifestyle like that Italian guy in the video.. then by all means go ahead, but if it makes you miserable, bored, sad and depressed all of that will influence you and you'll die from other factors.



The real good reason to get fit and not to live longer but when you're fit you'll experience the world better. That host in the documentary should've tried working out a little, he'd feel like 100 dollars.

Also look at hollywood stars and athletes, they inject themselves with steroids and hormones

Would you rather look like this and then drop dead at 75.
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Or be like that Indian in the video, crawl to 100 years old... and be barely hanging by a thread.
 
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Sleeve88 said:
Not always true.

Its quite common for people to eat 1000 cals per day, exercise every day, but not lose any weight.

If you put your body into a catabolic state it will hold onto fat through fear of starvation. The only way round this is to refeed your body, once maybe twice per week, it then kickstarts your metabolism and ensures the weightloss continues.

Plus if you ate say 2000 calories of white bread per day, but your average calorie expenditure was say 2500, you would still struggle to lose weight due the amount of simple carbs you are ingesting.

Not always as black and white as calories out > calories in.
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your body isn't magical and cant sustain a calories in < calories out state for long but you need to keep working the muscles or your body will just eat them as they're useless wastes.

People who just do cardio on a cut then complain that they're still fat but lost their muscle make me lol.
 
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