Spec me a last minute New York proposal...

[Raymond Lin]

So basically you are cornered into a window that you both know when you are going to pop the question?

Is it NYC or never?

If it is NYC then what does NYC hold for you both as memories?

 

[Rich_L]

Why mess about - flight to Vegas and sack the whole proposal off

Also I'm pretty sure you're wrong about not being able to visit while a visa is processing - there is perhaps a higher risk and higher burden of proof that you do not intend to stay as you have effectively petitioned and have indicated a desire to reside in the US, but that does not preclude you from visiting under the VWP as long as you are prepared to bring evidence of your ties to your homeland.

That said, it probably would be far less hassle to be added on to your to-be wife's existing green card petition (I-140?) as a spouse rather than have to go through the above and the uncertainty involved especially given the discretion granted to the immigration officers.

 

[Burned_Alive]

I proposed in the middle of the Rockfeller Center ice skating rink..... got a round of applause, followed by a couple of laps of the rink being congratulated.

I would probably rule out proposing on top of any of the major buildings as normally they're so thick with people, you'd just be proposing behind a crowd of people taking pictures in the other direction. Only one I think might work is top of the rock as it has some side balconies that are no quite as busy as the top.

 

[banja]

Top of the Rockefeller.

Looks out over the Empire State etc.

When you go up either of these, try and time it for just after the sun has gone down, but while it's still a bit light - the magic hour. Watching it get dark and seeing all the sky scraper / building lights come up is brilliant. Quite romantic too in a way.

 

[D.P.]

So basically you are cornered into a window that you both know when you are going to pop the question?

Is it NYC or never?

If it is NYC then what does NYC hold for you both as memories?

It is NYC or a huge nightmare and things go wrong, e..g I loose my job (which could happen through no fault of my own, lack of investors in the start up etc.) then I may never be able to live with the person I love.

NYC it is, we are not so bothered about the location or any of the formalities. We don't really feel strongly about the modern concept of marriage,w we both just want to live together forever. Signing some bits of paper shouldn't change anything. It is frustrating that you need these official documents just to live together under certain circumstances but that can't be helped.

In the future we wont look back at our NYC proposal with regret, we will look back at all the happy memories and fun things we did.

 

[D.P.]

When you go up either of these, try and time it for just after the sun has gone down, but while it's still a bit light - the magic hour. Watching it get dark and seeing all the sky scraper / building lights come up is brilliant. Quite romantic too in a way.

Good tip, thanks

 

[Raymond Lin]

It is NYC or a huge nightmare and things go wrong, e..g I loose my job (which could happen through no fault of my own, lack of investors in the start up etc.) then I may never be able to live with the person I love.

NYC it is, we are not so bothered about the location or any of the formalities. We don't really feel strongly about the modern concept of marriage,w we both just want to live together forever. Signing some bits of paper shouldn't change anything. It is frustrating that you need these official documents just to live together under certain circumstances but that can't be helped.

In the future we wont look back at our NYC proposal with regret, we will look back at all the happy memories and fun things we did.

Reading between the lines, its a means to an end.

You don't believe in marriage and doing this so you can live together, which I totally understand.

Then go all out, make it fun ! Go with the cheese. Do the grand gesture. Do the VERY NYC thing.

Not stuck in a hotel room with flowers, i mean that can be any place in the world, right?

 

[D.P.]

Why mess about - flight to Vegas and sack the whole proposal off

Also I'm pretty sure you're wrong about not being able to visit while a visa is processing - there is perhaps a higher risk and higher burden of proof that you do not intend to stay as you have effectively petitioned and have indicated a desire to reside in the US, but that does not preclude you from visiting under the VWP as long as you are prepared to bring evidence of your ties to your homeland.

That said, it probably would be far less hassle to be added on to your to-be wife's existing green card petition (I-140?) as a spouse rather than have to go through the above and the uncertainty involved especially given the discretion granted to the immigration officers.

In theory I could visit on a visitors waiver when she gets a green card but it can get a little trickier while my application would be processed. Anyway, assuming I can visit as a tourist that leaves me with a 90 day tourist visa waiver and every time I go to the US I have immigration risks. they certainly wont want me staying for 3 months and then leaving for a month before returning. Besides which I cannot live that way for 3 years, and couldn't get a job in europe etc.

Currently we are both on H1B visa, everything is fine. I can marry my GF and get an H4 visa allowing me to live and not work in the US, so if I did loose my job at least I can live with my then wife. But this does not extend when she gets a green card - there is no visa like the H4 for the spouse of someone with a green card. It is a whole new permanent residence application 9green card) and this is already back logged to 2010 and current estimates are at least 3-4 years for getting a green card this way. in that time I couldn't permanently live in the US with my then wife.

Bringing the wedding forwards a few months makes life very easy.I just provide some documentation along with the final part of her application and as long as she gets a green card I will get one automatically. We are then free to try to find a way to live together, or at least have security that if one of our jobs goes **** up we can live and work in the same place.

 

[D.P.]

Reading between the lines, its a means to an end.

You don't believe in marriage and doing this so you can live together, which I totally understand.

Then go all out, make it fun ! Go with the cheese. Do the grand gesture. Do the VERY NYC thing.

Not stuck in a hotel room with flowers, i mean that can be any place in the world, right?

yep, I fully intend to go all out and make the most fun and romantic weekend possible.

Good point about not proposing in the hotel as that could be anywhere and I should do something special. I still not convinced of a very public proposal with an audience (we are both fairly modest and I feel a that a proposal is something that should be ore private), but will definitely try something that can only be done in NYC, something much more memorable.

She loves boats and there are some nice cruise boats around the island.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Audience, ignore it. You are not doing it for them, you are doing this for you and for her.

They are just a backdrop.

p.s. I am in NYC on the weekend Sat 6th Oct.

Might drop by and snap that moment if I know where and when it will be taking place

 

[Van Hellseek]

If you have to ask GD then she deserves better than you.

 

[D.P.]

Audience, ignore it. You are not doing it for them, you are doing this for you and for her.

They are just a backdrop.

p.s. I am in NYC on the weekend Sat 6th Oct.

Might drop by and snap that moment if I know where and when it will be taking place

Unlucky timing, will be there following weekend

 

[D.P.]

If you have to ask GD then she deserves better than you.

I don't have to ask GD. Look how many threads ask about tourist destinations and things to do in a new city or country. this is no different.I don't know New York and I am really just looking for fun activities and nice restaurants or bars. Besides which asking for help in a proposal is completely normal, loads of other threads on ocuk about rings such like. There are also a ton of companies that specialize in wedding proposal activities and events. Heck, even found companies that do wedding proposal consulting and organization, it is not really any different to paying someone to organize an event like a wedding.

I am not doing that, I am trying to make some careful plans and get some ideas of what I think we will both enjoy. I just want to know of some cute little bar that has a nice view, scenic locals, fun activities. Yeah I can google this, and I have done a lot already.

I should have simply made a standard toursist thread asking for things to do, then no one would have batted an eye lid. I just thought if I am more open about my predicament then I might get more help and advice. Why some of you have to be so negative and condescending I really don't know. You don't know me, my GF, our lives, our situation or states of mind.