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Drop your prices Nvidia. Please?

humbug said:
Once upon a time yes, but with later drivers and GHZ editions the GTX 670 / 680's just don't have anything anymore (
Other than Physx ) But even AMD are doing the same thing with their own game titles now.


http://www.overclockers.com/asus-hd7970-directu-ii-top-graphics-card-review

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Even an overclocked GTX 670 vs overclocked 7950 is a match.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/3

The idea that Nvidia out perform AMD is very much the mindset, so i have no doubt Nvidia are selling very well despite the over inflated prices.
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That graph is rubbish mate. It's so wrong out of sync with everything else on the web I'm surprised you posted it.

7970 17 FPS faster than anything else... O...K...

The 7950 and 670 aren't even as explained before - the 670's memory in that review is massively underclocked so performance difference probably within 5% either way depending on the game.
 
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That graph is rubbish mate. It's so wrong out of sync with everything else on the web I'm surprised you posted it.
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^^^^ Show me what it's out of sync with.

7970 17 FPS faster than anything else... O...K...
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Whats everything else? where?
 
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humbug said:
^^^^ Show me what it's out of sync with.
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Every other review on the Internet.

I'm not being funny but you don't have the cards in question and it's not exactly hard to find a review which is in favour of your own bias. (speaking generally)

Honestly do you believe that an overclocked 7970 is THAT faster than an overclocked 680?

I have no real interest in arguing which is faster as a matter or principle but if we agree that the results there aren't correct then then you have to just discount them completely.
 
Absolutely no chance a 7970 is faster than a 680 in Battlefield 3. In all of the games you can choose Battlefield 3 always performs better in nvidia's favour.
 
Rusty0611 said:
Every other review on the Internet.

I'm not being funny but you don't have the cards in question and it's not exactly hard to find a review which is in favour of your own bias. (speaking generally)

Honestly do you believe that an overclocked 7970 is THAT faster than an overclocked 680?

I have no real interest in arguing which is faster as a matter or principle but if we agree that the results there aren't correct then then you have to just discount them completely.
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You are arguing which is faster, your accusing this review to be false because it shows it to be faster.

Just because it hurts you does not mean it's false, seriously get over yourself. :p
 
humbug said:
You are arguing which is faster, your accusing this review to be false because it shows it to be faster.
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No I'm not. I think that everything I've said is that review is not believable because it's putting the 7970 17 FPS faster than a 680 Lightning while overclocked. And therefore it should be discounted.
 
What resolution is he using?

I skimed the review but couldn't find it, also doesn't say what quality mode hes using in bf3 and if aa is applied.

Rusty0611 said:
No I'm not. I think that everything I've said is that review is not believable because it's putting the 7970 17 FPS faster than a 680 Lightning while overclocked. And therefore it should be discounted.
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Its possible if its overclocked and the 680 isn't, but its impossible to say without more info.
 
Rusty0611 said:
No I'm not. I think that everything I've said is that review is not believable because it's putting the 7970 17 FPS faster than a 680 Lightning while overclocked. And therefore it should be discounted.
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It should be discontinued because of your blanket opinion? listen to youself..... :rolleyes:

Ok, peak power draw during 3DMark 11 @ 1300/1750 (CPU @ 4GHz, RAM @ 1866/9-9-9-24) was 457W. During heavy load it looked to be hovering between 435W & 445W, but there was that heavy 452-457W pull during the first graphics test, which is the hardest for power draw.

That's a fair bit more than the 312W peak at stock for sure. The GTX 680 Lightning didn't have near that increase, but it also didn't have near that overclock, thanks to NVIDIA's complete watering down of their cards' capabilities. If they got rid of - or just heavily increased - the Power Tune limit and allowed voltage control, I'd wager Kepler would be more competitive with the overclocked HD 7970, but for whatever reason, NVIDIA has hamstrung all of their partners and isn't allowing any custom overclocking BIOSes, thus making AMD the overclockers' choice at the high end.
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There is your reason for that, you should really read properly before jumping up and down on people's work just because it's not the result you like to see.
 
LtMatt said:
Its possible if its overclocked and the 680 isn't, but its impossible to say without more info.
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The Lightning was overclocked but no information. Even with a mild overclock I can't see the results being that far ahead or at all.

The FPS results look like 1080 results.
 
OK so the 670 is even with the 7950 (your words) but this review shows the 7970 being 20% faster than the 680 when both are overclocked?

Yes. This review is definitely one to believe and go on when getting your performance indications from :).

Absolute guff is what it really is.
 
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I borrowed a 7970 ghz edition from a friend to try it out after i bought a kfa2 670, using a 3570k @ 4.0ghz the 7970 was ok but not to my liking.

I am glad i bought a 670 kfa2 oc from here as it was a lot better / smoother in games and IQ seemed sharper and the 670 was faster in most games i play than the saphire vapour ghz edition.

That was on my pc ~1920 x 1200 res. bf3 / max payne3 / Skyrim / Fallout 3 to name a few.

I am not saying the 7970 was not good but on my pc not as good as the 670.
New hard drive and new os installed on win 7 64 for the 7970.

Although heaven was faster on the 7970 by 600 points it was slower in actual games.

Would i buy a 7970 or even a 8970 Yes , Over a 670/680 or 770/780 No.
 
Rusty0611 said:
OK so the 670 is even with the 7950 (your words) but this review shows the 7970 being 20% faster than the 680 when both are overclocked?

Yes. This review is definitely one to believe and go on when getting your performance indications from :).

Absolute guff is what it really is.
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The GTX 680 is 5 to 10% faster than the GTX 670 clock for clock, the 7970 is a solid 10% faster than the 7950 clock for clock, so yeah.
 
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