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EVGA REMOVE EVBOT FROM 680 CLASSIFIED CARDS

DM?

What matters to me is how the cards actually perform. How they get there is a little less important to me personally.

If the new Kepler's are gimped then I won't buy them and I will go for 8970's if they're better cards.
 
Nvidia are losing the plot...If thet want to keep the enthusiasts, they need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Couldn't agree more, the only thing this is going to do is start pushing away the enthusiasts that buy these cards.

Nvidia obviously don't look at things like top benchmark scores as a selling point, over-volted 680's are ruling 3dmark11 at the moment.

Perhaps this mystery '680 that never was on GK110' stood a chance of getting smashed by a heavily clocked 'regular' 680.
 
Nvidia will lose a massive following if they try this with the next gen of cards.

Probably not as the man in the street wont give a rats bottom, just as when Intel stop all cards from being overclocked. Now if Nvidia were to allow clocking on certain models just like the K cpu's then we would all be laughing.
 
DM?

What matters to me is how the cards actually perform. How they get there is a little less important to me personally.

If the new Kepler's are gimped then I won't buy them and I will go for 8970's if they're better cards.

If you ever thought some of us can have a deep discussion, when DM (DrunkenMaster) and Duff-man and Xsistor get going, I sit in the corner sucking my thumb and rocking back and forth :D

They totaly lose me with Phyics/die sizes/Stream processing/SDK's etc etc.
 
Probably not as the man in the street wont give a rats bottom

Have to agree. I have nvidia uk on facebook. Several times I have commented on a pic posted r.e. my annoyance that the cards are limited to 1.175v. Not a single person even acknowledges me, lol!

It's just full of people spouting "zomgz, nvidia so cool, brah!" and "zomgz dat 690 is so powerbru!"
 
Have to agree. I have nvidia uk on facebook. Several times I have commented on a pic posted r.e. my annoyance that the cards are limited to 1.175v. Not a single person even acknowledges me, lol!

It's just full of people spouting "zomgz, nvidia so cool, brah!" and "zomgz dat 690 is so powerbru!"

:D

Maybe us die hards are doomed to a life of push the slider and that is that. Don't touch anything else or the eye in the sky will block you.
 
There may be some truth to a rumor about lack of performance for big keplar. Its a very big chip and it may have bad problems with heat at high clocks.

It may make Fermi look cool.
 
This just backs up the rumours/feelings that Nvidia shafted us by rebadging the 660 as the 680

That's possibly why they locked down the voltage too, they have a fantastic gpu that hit higher than was expected when it was juiced up.

The down side being a massed produced gpu with voltage teetering on the cusp of it's safe limits leaving no where to go with adding voltage.

Possibly Nvidia have been testing longevity of higher voltage and it doesn't look good.

Since there is no higher single gpu in the current line-up, it would make more sense to spend the extra over a 670 and get a 680 because it would be more overclockable than it's little brother as you could add volts, hence justifying the premium while getting increased sales as it's known not to be really worth it as the 70's can perform to the same levels.

It would be catastrophic to say the least for Nvidia from a PR point of view never mind the financial implications, if say 9 months after release there was a high level of failure caused by degradation to the core due to over voltage.

Then throw in the fanboys delight just for good measure and life wouldn't be worth living in the forums. :(

All the above is just my 2c's worth and thoughts on the matter, I may be totally off the mark and it just isn't the case, but it's just never made sense to me on why the top card is locked down for any other reason.

Anyway, whyscotty, fingers crossed you get the gpu you ordered mate.
 
Have to agree. I have nvidia uk on facebook. Several times I have commented on a pic posted r.e. my annoyance that the cards are limited to 1.175v. Not a single person even acknowledges me, lol!

It's just full of people spouting "zomgz, nvidia so cool, brah!" and "zomgz dat 690 is so powerbru!"


I don't want to wind anybody up with what i'm about to say.

I will start by saying that AMD Cards on release were horrendously overpriced, they took advantage of there status at the time as (the most powerful single GPU)

AMD's Drivers for a long time were hopeless, Crap, Broken, Under-performing, Annoying.... need i go on...... Yes i will, the only reason AMD undercut Nvidia is because they know it's the only way they will sell anything.

Right, now that i have that out of the way let me also say this.

Nvidia only putting 2GB on thier GTX 680's is less to do with it being (good enough) and far more about lower costs = higher profit.

Chipping away at your ability overclock them is also about increasing profits.

They don't actually care about what you or i think about overclocking, not when they have every 2 penny reviewer masturbating over Nvidia for out pacing AMD's early on (AMD only have themselves to blame for that) with those reviews widely used to hammer that point home where it is often a sport to bash AMD, it's fashionable in a lot of circles to do that even today where Nvidia have no performance advantage over AMD at all.

you have to hand it to Nvidia, their marketing, and the way they go about that is awesome.

They can sell you a dead horse, well not in this forum but if you look around forums and you can see what i mean.

They have a vast army of followers who have an endless supply of links to back up their claims.

All thing considered why should they give a #### what the intelligent few think.

Their cards being less and less appealing to you will not effect their profit margins they gain by turning their cards average and boring.

Because for every one who like you says "hang on, whats going on here? they have done this now, and that" a thousand will pull up some random bedroom review and say "look Nvidia are awesome, cool dude, and AMD are so much slower, and rubbish, and Nvidia has Physx to"

Nvidia are a busniss, they aim to make money and please their investors.

It's the consumer who dictate all of that, so it's the consumer who dictates the direction of that company.

I hope i'm right in thinking that AMD know they cannot afford to lose the enthusiasts (overclocking crowd) market.

Nvidia think they can, or wont, I hope they're wrong to!
 
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Some of the XFX and Sapphire HD7950 cards also lack voltage tweaking too IIRC,although i think you might be able to flash the BIOS(I could be wrong).

And Asus too with my 7970.
MSI 7850 too lacks voltage tweak too using MSI Afterburner.

I think the EVGA's reps opinion on AMD stems from the 7970 launch, with the price being horrendously high, while the performance was the best single GPU out, the increase wasn't as big as it should have been (Which in turn gave Nvidia the chance to do what they did with the re-badging of the 660)

AMD have turned it around quite a bit from there though, prices are very acceptable for a 7970 and a 7950, the GHZ edition gives some extra performance and the headroom is there.
 
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And Asus too with my 7970.
MSI 7850 too lacks voltage tweak too using MSI Afterburner.

I know XFX have Updated the PCB's on some of their cards, since then there seems to be no voltage adjustment on those cards, it's the first time i have heard that with Sapphire, MSI and Asus cards. Sapphire and Asus sill bundle OC utilities which has the voltage already unlocked.

XFX have never been the overclock GPU choice anyway, not for a while, they don't sell as well.

As for MSI AB, i find that it simply does not work to well with the volts on my card full stop, Sapphire TRIXX does.

the Latest range of Asus cards still have the voltage unlocked, actualy Asus have increased the unlocked voltage range on the 'TOP' cards and there is apparently an even higher one still to come next.

It's definitely something to keep an eye out for with AMD cards to.

Can i ask what you mean by "And Asus too with my 7970" is it just not much good? is it watterd down? or just not there?
 
I have an Asus DCII 7970.
It lacks overvolting, seems Asus have removed overvolting from their DCII cards, yet they're hyped for OC'ing in descriptions (Tons of discussions over several forums about it, even the TOP's lack overvolting, the stock voltage is all over the place too, mine runs 1.17V under load)

Took delivery of an MSI 7850 earlier today, fired up latest Afterburner, no 7850 support for overvolting.

Whereas with the 5XXX and 6XXX over volting was the norm constantly.
 
I have an Asus DCII 7970.
It lacks overvolting, seems Asus have removed overvolting from their DCII cards, yet they're hyped for OC'ing in descriptions (Tons of discussions over several forums about it, even the TOP's lack overvolting, the stock voltage is all over the place too, mine runs 1.17V under load)

Took delivery of an MSI 7850 earlier today, fired up latest Afterburner, no 7850 support for overvolting.

Whereas with the 5XXX and 6XXX over volting was the norm constantly.

Intresting, thanks :)
 
Thread is misleading, not EVGA's fault.

It should read >> NVIDIA FORCE EVGA TO REMOVE EVBOT FROM 680 CLASSIFIED CARDS
 
I get what your saying but whyscotty's possibly purchased a wrongly advertised card from Evga, not Nvidia, the thread is precise and to the point.:)
 
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