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i5 3570k or new amd trinity

@Martini1991... Give it a rest will you! You seem to have a thing for attacking anyone who mentions the use of AMD processors! I've been reading a few threads and notice you chiming in with an argumentative or aggressive attitude. I know i'm not the only one who's noticed your behavior either and it simply ruins things... Sorry for the little rant people.

Anyway, I would 100% recommend either a 2500K or 3570K if it's within budget for a new gaming rig (a 2500K if you want the highest overclocks ;)).
 
So, you "attack" me, while agreeing with my recommendation?
I even suggested waiting for Vishera, an AMD platform.

Good game!

So it's not like I can win really is it? I'm attacking people with the advice other people don't mind giving, but they feel the right to attack me themselves? Hmm..
I believe one hundred percent in ensuring people get the best and the parts that will be best for them, if that means I've got to be aggressive to get the message across so be it. But take your self righteous attitude elsewhere.

EDIT : For the record. The last AMD system I built was today, a little budget gaming rig for a friends brother, second hand but was able to get it cheap.
I have no problem at all with AMD as a company.
 
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Martini1991 said:
So, you "attack" me, while agreeing with me?
GG.

I even suggested waiting for Vishera, an AMD platform.
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Ok, i'll bite just this once :rolleyes:

I agree a Core i5 is the best option for a gaming rig if it's within budget, but i definitely don't agree with your attitude in most of the threads i've read (it's off-putting for newcomers such as myself). I certainly don't go all 'Intel defensive' if anyone wants to use an AMD CPU... It's all down to what the system is used for and how tight their budget is at the end of the day.

I personally think you only mention the use of an AMD chip as a last resort to try and disguise your obvious Intel 'fanboy' issue ;).

Anyway, i'm not going to argue over this and spoil the thread even further. It's getting late and maybe a mod should delete all non-relevant posts including this one. Cheers
 
I'm not an Intel fanboy though. I don't even like Intel (I think their business practices are highly questionable, I think they're gouging the consumer for as much money as they can possibly get. It's absolutely hilarious that Intel are still pushing Quad Cores as main stream, they're more than 5 years old) But if you need the performance, you haven't got a choice.

Using an AMD CPU such as an APU with a dedicated GPU is foolish as high end as a GTX670, if Trinity is enough for them, then wait for the Vishera platform, it's that simple.

Last AMD system I built was today, an AMD budget gaming rig.
I'm far from a fanboy.

One reason I come across this way, is people like you jumping down with your self righteous attitude, there was absolutely no reason at all to even comment regarding it.
If I wasn't having to defend myself/justify myself constantly from a select few, then I'd be much more relaxed when giving an opinion.

End of the day, if you're giving advice to someone, you want them to have the best possible that they can have, I'd hate to suggest something to someone and they later regret it because it's not coping as well as they'd hope etc.

EDIT : As a final touch, I'm after a laptop, you want to know what I'm leaning towards? An A10 Laptop with 7670 like D_Brennen has. Just because I'm consistent in my opinion when it comes to gaming PC's, doesn't mean I'm a fanboy.
 
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Hate to chime in here, but I have to agree with these guys Martini. I've mostly just been stalking these sections lately, and whilst I do agree with 99% of the things you say on the forums, you do come over as being pushy, occasionally even a tad on the aggressive side (although I don't think this thread is the best example). These forums don't need another Big Wayne ("thermally advantaged" chassis anyone?)

I really don't think basing decisions/facts off rumours and early previews a good idea. Things can be wrong and things can change - anyone remember the bogus story going around about phenom ii's having 4ghz stock a few months before their release? Although with the 5800k has lived up (or down) to expectations in this case, I still think the first three pages of this thread contained some borderline militant views (from all parties might I hasten to add) on something that wasn't even released.

just my 2c. I shall say no more on the matter
 
thingemajib said:
Hate to chime in here, but I have to agree with these guys Martini. I've mostly just been stalking these sections lately, and whilst I do agree with 99% of the things you say on the forums, you do come over as being pushy, occasionally even a tad on the aggressive side (although I don't think this thread is the best example). These forums don't need another Big Wayne ("thermally advantaged" chassis anyone?)

I really don't think basing decisions/facts off rumours and early previews a good idea. Things can be wrong and things can change - anyone remember the bogus story going around about phenom ii's having 4ghz stock a few months before their release? Although with the 5800k has lived up (or down) to expectations in this case, I still think the first three pages of this thread contained some borderline militant views (from all parties might I hasten to add) on something that wasn't even released.

just my 2c. I shall say no more on the matter
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That's fair enough.

But I don't even agree with 99% of the things I say. ;)
That said, I was confident about my opinion due to the previews we had only days ago of the sites with the chips, it wasn't really speculation based on nothing.
If I said Haswell was going to come out and add an extra 20% on IB, then that would be completely unsubstantiated nonesense.
 
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Overclocked A10-5800K will Bottleneck a GTX 670 before the locked i3?

The performance in single threaded App's the i3 is about 20% ahead.

In multi threaded App's the A10-5800K is a little ahead. All this at stock.

If you run the A10-5800K @ 4.4Ghz / 4.6Ghz it will not Bottleneck the GTX 670 before the i3, even in single threaded games.

I don't believe that for a second.
 
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At stock the 5800K is 4.2 under turbo, so 4.6 is only a 9% increase. But it is pretty even, they're both as bad as eachother, it would be silly to pair it with either.
 
For gaming you need intel.

I have a phenom 960t running at 4.1 and it is running up near 100% in a lot of the new tittles.

On amd side you aint getting much better than a 960t at 4.1mhz and mine is struggling with my 660ti.

Spend the extra and get an intel 2570k and then at least you will get the full power out of your graphics card.

My 960t @ 4.1 can't even host a 4 player game on borderlands 2.
 
What he needs right now for a GTX 670 is an i5. Both a Phenom II x4 / A10-5800K AND an i3 WILL bottleneck that GPU at some point.

There is another option, a 7950 and an i5, that will cost the same as the GTX 670 with the £90 CPU.

The 7950 is comparable to a GTX 670, with it you have the best of both worlds.
 
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