Liquid nitrogen in a drink?

From reading the article it sounds like her stomach ruptured due to the expanding gases rather than it being frozen.

She'll get a massive payout I suspect.
 
From reading the article it sounds like her stomach ruptured due to the expanding gases rather than it being frozen.

She'll get a massive payout I suspect.

I don't think it's much compensation for not being able to eat properly ever again though.
 
No, but it is still incredibly stupid, if not very sad that she is paying such a high price on her 18th birthday. I'm not sure what it is about alcohol that makes people behave like idiots with it. Setting it on fire, absorbing through eyeballs, ingesting via an enema... I just don't understand the mentality of it.

While people do stupid things while drinking and to ingest drinks, I don't think its fair to lump them all together.

Flaming and Smoking drinks are done for the theatrics, much like getting a dessert with a sparkler in it. People have burnt themselves with flaming drinks because they aren't supposed to be drunk while still flaming, a flatmate of mine stupidly did that and ended up with burns.

Liquid Nitrogen drinks are done by mixologists on the more posh end of the Cocktail scale. So for somebody who hasn't had one before, you would assume that for them to be serving it, it must be deemed safe. So its the preparation and lack of explanation about the danger of the drink in this case, rather than it being because she may have been too drunk and its her own fault.
 
I would have said it's obvious most people out in British towns at night are not in any kind of responsible state to handle cryogenic drinks! Sad story though, should never have happened.
 
Pure liquid nitrogen sure. A minute amount in a bar drink, probably not.

if it was still cold enough to be a liquid when drank then it is dangerous full stop as it will expand significantly when changing into a gas.

there are plenty of people who have had collapsed lungs, perforated stomachs and have died from drinking liquid nitrogen (usually chemistry students!).
 
Thing is people expect Coffee to be hot, maybe not crazy hot but hot enough, also you don't expect people in McD's to be impaired in their decision making(well not for the same reason :p ) as those who would get a dangerous drink in a club. Firstly clubs can be stupid loud to the point you can't even hear a barman, so if they sell drinks that need explicit warnings to people who might not be able to hear them and could be so drunk they don't have the decision making ability to not just chug the drink to start with.

Basically its stupid as hell to do it, so stupid that the bar should be sued and absolutely wiped out by this woman. Even if she was told, even if it was her choice to get completely drunk, the very combination of noise, alcohol, drunk people and dangerous drinks is absolutely and completely ridiculous.

To some degree people need to be protected, as much as possible, from their own stupidity and while society over does that in some places, where you expect people to be drunk, potentially almost completely out of it.... stupidly dangerous drinks is an incredibly bad idea.
 
Thing is people expect Coffee to be hot, maybe not crazy hot but hot enough, also you don't expect people in McD's to be impaired in their decision making(well not for the same reason :p ) as those who would get a dangerous drink in a club. Firstly clubs can be stupid loud to the point you can't even hear a barman, so if they sell drinks that need explicit warnings to people who might not be able to hear them and could be so drunk they don't have the decision making ability to not just chug the drink to start with.

Basically its stupid as hell to do it, so stupid that the bar should be sued and absolutely wiped out by this woman. Even if she was told, even if it was her choice to get completely drunk, the very combination of noise, alcohol, drunk people and dangerous drinks is absolutely and completely ridiculous.

To some degree people need to be protected, as much as possible, from their own stupidity and while society over does that in some places, where you expect people to be drunk, potentially almost completely out of it.... stupidly dangerous drinks is an incredibly bad idea.

health and safety law covers this quite clearly - the owner of the bar has a duty of care to the customers.
he's going to get sued. i doubt the insurance company will pay out as the moment he started serving something potentially dangerous his insurance became invalid.
the HSE may also go for criminal charges - they treat this sort of thing very seriously.
 
While people do stupid things while drinking and to ingest drinks, I don't think its fair to lump them all together.

Flaming and Smoking drinks are done for the theatrics, much like getting a dessert with a sparkler in it. People have burnt themselves with flaming drinks because they aren't supposed to be drunk while still flaming, a flatmate of mine stupidly did that and ended up with burns.

Liquid Nitrogen drinks are done by mixologists on the more posh end of the Cocktail scale. So for somebody who hasn't had one before, you would assume that for them to be serving it, it must be deemed safe. So its the preparation and lack of explanation about the danger of the drink in this case, rather than it being because she may have been too drunk and its her own fault.

Therein lies the problem though, it is the assumption that because it is being sold on licensed premises it is safe to drink. Clearly, this is not the case and somebody has sadly had to pay a very high price for it. It doesn't hurt to have a healthy level of scepticism towards these kinds of things - it's certainly never done me no harm.

I'm not saying that people are necessarily stupid for doing it and no doubt already being intoxicated plays some role in the clouded judgement. All I'm saying is that I just don't understand the attraction to it. But maybe that's because I drink for my own enjoyment, something which does not include cocktails or overly showy displays of my alcoholism.
 
I am glad few if any people are blaming the woman for this - if it's not safe to drink the barman at a licensed premises should not let you drink it, this could have quite as easily happened to a sober person. Reckless by the bar and I hope that the woman is heavily compensated.
 
health and safety law covers this quite clearly - the owner of the bar has a duty of care to the customers.
he's going to get sued. i doubt the insurance company will pay out as the moment he started serving something potentially dangerous his insurance became invalid.
the HSE may also go for criminal charges - they treat this sort of thing very seriously.

Knowing what happens following chemical accidents in the process industry, i fully expect the bar to get hauled through the courts with some serious consequences.
 
From reading the article it sounds like her stomach ruptured due to the expanding gases rather than it being frozen.

She'll get a massive payout I suspect.

She was probably trying to avoid unladylike behaviour and held in the massive fart caused by the expanding gasses.

The real lesson from all this is "better out than in".

/Salsa
 
Knowing what happens following chemical accidents in the process industry, i fully expect the bar to get hauled through the courts with some serious consequences.


yep - the owners only hope is that he did all the safety assessments, made his staff do them, trained them properly, but that one of them made a mistake and screwed up - anything else and its his fault.
lucky she didn't die or he would up on a corporate manslaughter charge.
 
if it was still cold enough to be a liquid when drank then it is dangerous full stop as it will expand significantly when changing into a gas.

there are plenty of people who have had collapsed lungs, perforated stomachs and have died from drinking liquid nitrogen (usually chemistry students!).

Yes I agree, Im sure the idea of the drink is to wait until it stops smoking before drinking it, but some customers may not realize this.
 
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