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560TI SLI or a 670.

Antony101

Antony101

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I currently have two 560TIs in SLI, however they are extremely noisy and get very hot. I was thinking about grabbing a 670 to make it quiet again but was wondering what the performance would be like in comparison. I tend to run low on Video Memory in most games even though I'm only playing at 1920x1080.

What are peoples thoughts on this? Would the extra memory make up for the loss in power, and even so, how much power would I be loosing.
 
The move to the 670 would be beneficial in terms of power consumption, heat and noise. You won't be restricted on memory either (unless you play skycrap + 24125326432532 mods..bla bla bla),

You could even SLI the 670 when its showing signs of aging.
 
This was my thoughts, however, I'm okay spending the £300ish to get a quieter and cooler build but I wouldn't be very happy if I noticed much of a drop in frame rate. However, with the SLI it does seem to be memory that caps before anything else.
 
You could save some money and go 7850 crossfire for maximum GPU power for your money. Or single 7950.

The 670 is expensive and performs to the naked eye identically to a 7950.

That said if you prefer nVidia then the 670 is a nice card and will be a good upgrade for you.
 
Your minimum frames would increase, your average and maximums would come down - not by much...probably 10-15%? You could always clock the difference...

Or do as Rusty says, get AMD.
 
I've just gone from 2 470s in SLI to a 670.
It's a lot better overall.

Benchmark wise it is 2fps slower in Crysis 2 and a couple of others.
Gameplay wise it feels smoother & the extra vram helps a lot, especially when playing BF3 on ultra.

It's definitely worth it & you'll get a good chunk of your money back selling the 560s. :)
 
Yeah, I'm sticking with nVidia and I've had issues with AMD in the past. I'm not saying I don't understand AMD is probably better value atm but I much prefer nVidia. I also like physX.

Hopefully I'll hit 1000 posts soon and get rid of the 560TIs.
 
Rusty0611 said:
You could save some money and go 7850 crossfire for maximum GPU power for your money. Or single 7950.

The 670 is expensive and performs to the naked eye identically to a 7950.

That said if you prefer nVidia then the 670 is a nice card and will be a good upgrade for you.
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But, but, he didn't ask for an AMD suggestion! (remember?)

No but seriously, it is actually a sensible suggestion.

You might have had issues with AMD in the past, but what happens if you have issues with nVidia? Are you gonna quit nVidia too? Or would you just realise that people have issues with their computers from time to time, it doesn't matter the brand of hardware.

You won't have any choices left for high performance graphics chips.

If you get a 670, you are literally paying more (quite a bit more) money for nothing, it's a waste of money, same as the 660, 680 and 7970.
 
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spoffle said:
But, but, he didn't ask for an AMD suggestion! (remember?)

No but seriously, it is actually a sensible suggestion.

You might have had issues with AMD in the past, but what happens if you have issues with nVidia? Are you gonna quit nVidia too? Or would you just realise that people have issues with their computers from time to time, it doesn't matter the brand of hardware.

You won't have any choices left for high performance graphics chips.

If you get a 670, you are literally paying more (quite a bit more) money for nothing, it's a waste of money, same as the 660, 680 and 7970.
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As said, PhysX is a deal breaker.

I'm not being bitchy, I know that I would be better off going with AMD but I'd rather get a 670.
 
Is it really a deal breaker? What games actually use PhysX to any appreciable degree outside of Borderlands 2? Barely any games use it.
 
spoffle said:
Is it really a deal breaker? What games actually use PhysX to any appreciable degree outside of Borderlands 2? Barely any games use it.
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Have you played Borderlands 2?
Seeing the Physx in that made me stick to Nvidia this time round too.

Why are you derailing the thread into another NV vs AMD thread, there are already loads of them?
He asked for advice regarding swapping SLI 560s for a 670. If you have no advice regarding this why even post?
 
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Antony101 said:
Yeah, I'm sticking with nVidia and I've had issues with AMD in the past. I'm not saying I don't understand AMD is probably better value atm but I much prefer nVidia. I also like physX.

Hopefully I'll hit 1000 posts soon and get rid of the 560TIs.
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Fair enough mate. The only problem with getting a 670 is that a custom cooled one will set you back a fair bit north of £300 and a custom cooled one will help to keep things quieter when you apply an overclock .... it's free and gives a lot of performance so why not?

The only alternative under your budget would be a 660Ti but I still feel these are too expensive and not worth it so I would avoid. If it's possible, save a little longer or wait for a deal on the Gigabyte Windforce 670. I think this is the best one along with the MSI Twin Frozr one.

If not then a reference 670 will be fine, it may just be a little noisy while gaming. If you game with headphones on like me then this won't be an issue anyway for you. :D

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-170-MS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2294

Is not too much over £300 and will give you a noticeable boost in performance. If you overclock you're looking at being within 5% of my overclocked 680 which ain't bad :D.
 
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I intend to get an after market cooled card. Which would be the best regarding cooling and on terms of returning it within warranty? I'm assuming it would be the Windforce 3X.

Also, the way Borderlands 2 uses PhysX is amazing, I would not be surprised if it causes other developers to take it on board. But even the small details in Batman and Mafia 2 make a massive difference.
 
no_1_dave said:
Have you played Borderlands 2?
Seeing the Physx in that made me stick to Nvidia this time round too.

Why are you derailing the thread into another NV vs AMD thread, there are already loads of them?
He asked for advise regarding swapping SLI 560s for a 670. If you have no advise regarding this why even post?
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I've played loads of Borderlands 2, and the PhysX does look very nice, it does however not really need a GPU for those type of effects, the implementation of running those effects on the GPU is a huge gimmick even if they do look very nice, it's stuff that's been done for years.

As for nV versus AMD, where has that happened? I'm suggesting one product over another that's purely based on value. I'm well aware that he's asked about swapping 2x 560Tis for a 670, if you read my post you'll realise I was actually responding to some one else suggesting a 7950. Maybe you should go and complain at them about starting an AMD versus nV thing since they were the first to mention AMD?

Antony101 said:
I intend to get an after market cooled card. Which would be the best regarding cooling and on terms of returning it within warranty? I'm assuming it would be the Windforce 3X.

Also, the way Borderlands 2 uses PhysX is amazing, I would not be surprised if it causes other developers to take it on board. But even the small details in Batman and Mafia 2 make a massive difference.
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I strongly doubt other developers will take up hardware PhysX. The stuff in Batman and Mafia 2 really don't need a GPU for those effects, you're just cutting your framerate down for the sake of a gimmick to be blunt about it.

Developers are never going to seriously use PhysX whilst it's owned by and is an nVidia proprietary API, and I can never see AMD and nVidia coming to any sort of agreement on its use, so PhysX is destined to die long term.

It'll only be used by developers when nVidia is offering a cash incentive for its use, and even then, it'll always be tacked on effects that don't require a GPU to run.
 
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That is true, my point is more based around it doesn't make any sense to buy a card because you like PhysX and on the assumption that PhysX will be used more. £60+ more money for one game is madness.
 
spoffle said:
That is true, my point is more based around it doesn't make any sense to buy a card because you like PhysX and on the assumption that PhysX will be used more. £60+ more money for one game is madness.
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I agree - I say the same when people spend more than that to play Skyrim on a nVidia card with loads of mods (2GB to 4GB).

All you can do is inform people and let them make their own decision.
 
spoffle said:
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He is saying that £60 not being worth it is your opinion. Which is correct. I appreciate the help and information but I've already looked into the 670/680/7950/7970 thing and liked the idea of a 670. I've had bad history with AMD and have since owned Nvidia cards without issue. There software seems much better and PhysX is a good addition.

Also, the 670 seems to be better at running the games I actually play, like BF3. On most benchmarks I can find including anandtech the 670 destroys the 7950 in BF3.

What I am struggling to find is people and info regarding switching from two 560TIs in SLI to a single 670 for other reasons that pure performance.

I once again thank you for the input but I'm rather set on the 670.
 
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