respected qualification for I.T jobs- NOT UNI

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Just wondering what would be respected qualifications to pick up for a 31y.o salesman to pick up if they fancied a career in I.T??

Can't afford a degree so please bear that in mind and if it's not going to be affordable/realistic then please be honest and say so :D
 
Microsoft MSCE or CISCO CCIE are the two that spring readily to mind
thanks for the input

IT covers a vast field, any specific area you would prefer?

thats a really good question- honestly at this point I'm just tired of having a car as an office and would like to work in a real office- maybe some kind of i.t support like in the i.t crowd lol :D????
 
What is your sales experience?

Being a salesman you're probably more likely to go into IT sales or Pre-sales than actual IT. Why throw away a skill set you already have?

Certs like CCIE, CCNA, MCSE etc, may well be beyond your reach unless you're looking to do a few solid years of hard work and still be unlikely to get a job in IT.

So two options:

1.) IT sales. Plenty of IT companies (Oracle, EMC) have inside sales teams and sales associates where you can stay in sales but make a move sideways into IT. A lot of money in it if you do well and move up.

2.)Pre-sales. The kinda techie person who accompanies the sales guy to answer the technical questions but it's more 'soft' techie than bits and bytes techie (depending on the company). Your sales experience will be valuable because you're still technically a salesman.
 
For desktop support i would go down a microsfot career track. I'm not sure of the exams though as i'm in networking.

I'm sure someone can point you in the right direction though
 
What is your sales experience?

Being a salesman you're probably more likely to go into IT sales or Pre-sales than actual IT. Why throw away a skill set you already have?

Certs like CCIE, CCNA, MCSE etc, may well be beyond your reach unless you're looking to do a few solid years of hard work and still be unlikely to get a job in IT.

So two options:

1.) IT sales. Plenty of IT companies (Oracle, EMC) have inside sales teams and sales associates where you can stay in sales but make a move sideways into IT. A lot of money in it if you do well and move up.

2.)Pre-sales. The kinda techie person who accompanies the sales guy to answer the technical questions but it's more 'soft' techie than bits and bytes techie (depending on the company). Your sales experience will be valuable because you're still technically a salesman.

Currently am a sales rep in the glamorous world of confectionery! Flogging chocolates to independent retailers/promoting brand awareness etc.

Previously worked as a salesman at Harrods selling 'high end' hifi :rolleyes:
 
Currently am a sales rep in the glamorous world of confectionery! Flogging chocolates to independent retailers/promoting brand awareness etc.

Previously worked as a salesman at Harrods selling 'high end' hifi :rolleyes:

So go into IT sales. If you want to get more technical then move into a more technical role later.

Look at the usual suspects for inside Sales or Associate / Junior sales positions.

Oracle, EMC, VMware, Microsoft, Cisco, etc - any of the big names and their partners.
 
So go into IT sales. If you want to get more technical then move into a more technical role later.

Look at the usual suspects for inside Sales or Associate / Junior sales positions.

Oracle, EMC, VMware, Microsoft, Cisco, etc - any of the big names and their partners.

thanks for the advice- gotta love the ocuk forums :)
 
The place I work at is currently recruiting and are not paying very well. With no experience you can expect to earn 20k-25k, place at is hiring two 1st line support guys at i think 25k and one second line guy at 27k.

It depends on what field of IT you want to work in. If you want to use your sales background then you can get many jobs in IT companies for sales guys but you might end up moving around a lot in your car as well. If you want a desktop support role then depending on the industry you may get by with basic active directory and exchange and application support knowledge that you can pick up on the job or by watching some training videos on ad and exchange administration. It is more about your ability to deal with the support calls and problems that usually only experience will give you. Best thing to do is put yourself in the position and blag it, if you need to know something learn about it when you need it.
 
It is always good to have certifications but they can be expensive.

You can learn about AD and other corporate software for free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J8uw3GNZxzQ

AS an example but you can find more on youtube. There is also cbt nuggets and train signal which i have used in the past to learn. Get some virtual software and then download some trial versions of corporate software and get them installed on the virtual software like vmware workstation, then start messing around with them and watching youtube videos.

But you could find that you learn about AD and exchange but go on to a job and they are using bespoke software or you get queries that there are no training videos for, but after a few years doing the support you will know the answer because they always the same problems.

It is like you can learn how an engine works but when you have to repair it a guy who has been doing it for 10 years knows that if it is leaking oil out of X component then it is most likely Y that is at fault. They didn't teach that when you learned about the engine, same concept.
 
I always thought that compTIA A+ was the one to go for.

I have always thought that was the first one to get to get into a desktop support role, but I haven't heard anything about it for a while. I think A+ on it's own probably doesn't do a lot for career prospects these days other than as a convenient way of picking up the basic knowledge required for more complex qualifications.
 
from everything posted so far it seems the wisest option would be to try and get a sales job in i.t rather than a technical role- I think the change of business would be enough to keep me motivated and excited which is really the feeling I'm desperate to get back :)
 
Just to add - a small cert in IT, such as the Comptia A+ or an MCP (one Microsoft cert) could be a good idea in that it simply shows you are keen and interested in IT and not just looking for anything else.
 
It totally depends what you want to do in IT.

IT is a huge environment, and you could spend significantly more than the cost of a degree on training without much effort if, for example, you went down the Cisco network path. In my opinion, don't spend any cash without really understanding what you want to do. I've spent literally tens of thousands on training, but its all useful to me.

Personally, I'm not hugely technical. I can roughly understand what the turbo geeks are saying, and I can translate that into business speak. As such, and because I still love the flashing lights of new IT kit, I work in IT Service Management. Based on this I have a load of the ITIL qualifications. My job is basically just talking to people and managing relationships. Pretty good fun really. There is obviously a load more stuff that goes with it, but broadly speaking that is what I do.

If that sounds interesting, you need to be searching for something like a Service Management Analyst role, or maybe even pick a discipline like Service Level Management or Incident Management.
 
Im in the same boat as the OP, I'll be 31 soon and im currently unemployed. I did some research a while ago and CCNA and MCSE type certs just looked too advanced and expensive for me so gave up on the idea.
 
IT sales can be very lucrative as I'm sure vanilla and others in that game will tell you ;)

As said all the big and not so big places have sales roles, guess it depends on where you are based as to who you'll look at although it can be a role on the road.


I'd say I'm similar, I've worked in tech teams but have always been a bit of an inbetweener, not a die hard techs and maybe a bit more business focused.

I'm in security but again a lot of my role at the moment is talking to people, internally and with my customer, managing the security side of things at a high-ish level.
 
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