Lance Armstrong charges
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My god how far back are we gonna go ?
LeMond ? Fignon ? Hinault ? Dare i say it .... Merkx ?
I just hope we're not posting in a thread like this in 6/7 years time entitled... "Wiggins drug charges....."
They were all on it back in Merckx's day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_Merckx#Doping
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http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo.../Keyes-hamilton-the-secret-race.html?page=all
Looking forward to reading this!
Looking forward to reading this!
So basically that book is saying that all pro cyclists are dopers but they know how to get away with it and that the UCI are in on it because it would ruin cycling if it ever came to light?
If I'm to believe that then it sounds to me like *all* professional athletes are dopers. Why would cycling be any different to any other sport? Yep, Wiggins must've doped, Bolt too, Phelps, Hoy... They just know how to get away with it like the cyclists do
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Ignore.
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I expect many are. Not convinced by the Sky team though, I think Cycling is clean at the moment purely because the climbing speeds are nothing like they used to be. That's not to say there aren't any still out there though
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This news shocked me
George Hincapie releases a statement.
http://www.georgehincapie.com/news/Statement-from-George-Hincapie/
http://www.georgehincapie.com/news/Statement-from-George-Hincapie/
Oh, can someone also sum up the 1000 page report in brief when they've read it? Ta.
"Guilty."
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Good grief.
Chances of him coming out and apologising for trying to deceive anyone for all these years?
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Chances of him coming out and apologising for trying to deceive anyone for all these years?
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That ship has sailed.
I wonder why he denied it so forcefully all this time, since they have 1000 pages of evidence against him? Surely they didn't just find that in a bin somewhere and he must've had a suspicion that someone out there could let the cat out of the bag.
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I guess he has denied because the one thing USADA don't have is the smoking gun, the failed drugs test.
A lot of people can't get their head around the fact that most other sports catch their cheats with drugs tests, and this didn't happen in Cycling. This overlooks that EPO (the drug of choice for cyclists) didn't have a test for a long time, and even when it did the athletes didn't 'glow' for long after taking it so it was easy to avoid without effective out of competition testing. Which there wasn't.
Even now there is not a foolproof test for the other 'drug' of choice which is Transfusions. Hence the need to have a Blood passport which only shows up anomalies over time.
A lot of people can't get their head around the fact that most other sports catch their cheats with drugs tests, and this didn't happen in Cycling. This overlooks that EPO (the drug of choice for cyclists) didn't have a test for a long time, and even when it did the athletes didn't 'glow' for long after taking it so it was easy to avoid without effective out of competition testing. Which there wasn't.
Even now there is not a foolproof test for the other 'drug' of choice which is Transfusions. Hence the need to have a Blood passport which only shows up anomalies over time.
Armstrong’s suspicious test for EPO at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland
The 2001 Tour du Suisse (Tour of Switzerland) was conducted from June 19 – 28, 2001 and was won by Lance Armstrong. Armstrong told both Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis that he had tested positive for EPO at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland and stated or implied that he had been able to make the EPO test result go away.
Armstrong’s conversation with Hamilton was in 2001, and he told Hamilton “his people had been in touch with UCI, they were going to have a meeting and everything was going to be ok.”
Armstrong’s conversation with Landis was in 2002, and Landis recalled Armstrong saying that, “he and Mr. Bruyneel flew to the UCIheadquarters and made a financial agreement to keep the positive test hidden.”
Consistent with the testimony of both Mr. Hamilton and Mr. Landis, Pat McQuaid, the current president of UCI, has acknowledged that during 2002, Lance Armstrong and Johan Bruyneel visited the UCI headquarters in Aigle in May 2002 and offered at least $100,000 to help the development of cycling.
UCI vehemently denies that this meeting or payment was, as Mr. Armstrong told Mr.Hamilton and Mr. Landis, tied to a cover-up of the 2001 Tour de Suisse sample. In any case,what is important for the case is that substantial parts of Mr. Hamilton’s and Mr. Landis’s recollections of Mr. Armstrong’s statements have been corroborated.
As discussed in more detail in Section V(C) below, Dr. Martial Saugy, the Director of theWADA-accredited anti-doping laboratory in Lausanne, Switzerland has confirmed to both USADA and the media that his laboratory detected a number of samples in the 2001 Tour deSuisse that were suspicious for the presence of EPO. Dr. Saugy also told USADA that he was advised by UCI that at least one of these samples belonged to Mr. Armstrong. Therefore, even without any consideration of the laboratory test results for these samples, as set forth above,Tyler Hamilton’s and Floyd Landis’s testimony regarding Mr. Armstrong’s admission that heused EPO at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland finds substantial corroboration in the statements of both Dr. Martial Saugy and UCI President Pat McQuaid.
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What a lot of people don't get their head around is that most other sports never catch cheats full stop. It's frightening the number of cheats caught in cycling even with all the testing - when you look at the control procedures in other sports you have to wonder what's going on there!
He's been suspect for ages, and the likes of Paul Kimmage and David Walsh have pointed the finger for years, only for the people at UCi to deny everything or sue them for libel.
The next thing to come up will be Bruyneel - he's been implicated by most of Armstrong's former teammates but has decided to contest the charges. Good luck with that, Johan.
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Yup, LA has never failed a drug test. If he had his life would probably have been much better.
beta-hCG is used by athletes to stimulate testosterone production, which is frequently required at the end of an anabolic steroid cycle. As a result it's one of chemical markers that is looked for by WADA testing and has been for a long time. It's also an indicator of pregnancy, hence the jokes about male athletes turning out to be pregnant following their urine samples. It was a staple of drug testing long before 1996.
The normal level is 1-2 nano-grams per millilitre of blood.
beta-hGC is also an indicator of testicular cancer. At the time of his admission to hospital Armstrong himself has given his levels as variously 52,000 ng/ml, 92,380 ng/ml and 109,000 ng/ml.
Armstrong was tested two months before his admission to hospital.
Given how far his cancer had developed there was little chance his beta-hGC would have been at normal levels for months.
It's worth noting that Alan Stubbs, the former Celtic and Bolton defender, was diagnosed with testicular cancer as a direct result of failing such a test.
Armstrong has never failed a drugs test.
beta-hCG is used by athletes to stimulate testosterone production, which is frequently required at the end of an anabolic steroid cycle. As a result it's one of chemical markers that is looked for by WADA testing and has been for a long time. It's also an indicator of pregnancy, hence the jokes about male athletes turning out to be pregnant following their urine samples. It was a staple of drug testing long before 1996.
The normal level is 1-2 nano-grams per millilitre of blood.
beta-hGC is also an indicator of testicular cancer. At the time of his admission to hospital Armstrong himself has given his levels as variously 52,000 ng/ml, 92,380 ng/ml and 109,000 ng/ml.
Armstrong was tested two months before his admission to hospital.
Given how far his cancer had developed there was little chance his beta-hGC would have been at normal levels for months.
It's worth noting that Alan Stubbs, the former Celtic and Bolton defender, was diagnosed with testicular cancer as a direct result of failing such a test.
Armstrong has never failed a drugs test.