Gary McKinnon day of judgement

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Didn't see any other posts here, what do you think, I'm going with not to be extradited on the grounds of political (un)popularity .
 
OhEsEcks said:
I'm going with him being extradited. When America says jump Britain asks how high.
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From what I read about this previously, America has agreed to EVERY extradition request asked by the UK, where as we have denied some of the requests by the US.

My personal view on if he should be extradited is that he should, he broke US law and only they have the resources and information to properly take him to trial. If he didn't want any of this to happen then he shouldn't have done what he did.
 
interesting case this one, a real test of how much rights and responsibility conflict and whether threats should be considered a reason not to extradite...

The one thing that shouldn't happen is a decision made on popularity. let's see if May is strong enough to avoid it.
 
Dist said:
From what I read about this previously, America has agreed to EVERY extradition request asked by the UK, where as we have denied some of the requests by the US.

My personal view on if he should be extradited is that he should, he broke US law and only they have the resources and information to properly take him to trial. If he didn't want any of this to happen then he shouldn't have done what he did.
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Are the ones Britain denied the ones where the individual up for extradition could face the death penalty? As far as I know, that's one of the main reasons we don't extradite.

As for what he did... you should probably read up on it more.
 
Dist said:
From what I read about this previously, America has agreed to EVERY extradition request asked by the UK, where as we have denied some of the requests by the US.
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But isn't it much harder for someone to be extradited from the US to the UK which is what all the fuss is about with it being unfair.


I think that the outcome will probably be that he will be extradited and they'll say that any medical concerns have been satisfied.
 
I think he'll probably get extradited, though I don't agree with it. If the crime was commited on UK soil, he should be tried on UK soil. We shouldn't bow down whenever the US cracks its knuckles at us.
 
OhEsEcks said:
Are the ones Britain denied the ones where the individual up for extradition could face the death penalty? As far as I know, that's one of the main reasons we don't extradite.

As for what he did... you should probably read up on it more.
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McKinnon is accused of hacking into 97 United States military and NASA computers over a 13-month period between February 2001 and March 2002.

Happy for him to be extradited to face trial.
 
TheBigCheese said:
But isn't it much harder for someone to be extradited from the US to the UK which is what all the fuss is about with it being unfair.
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Especially since the Americans don't have to provide contestable evidence. They just have to say, he did X, Y and Z, this was the outcome, it cost us this much, hand him over. And amazingly it cost them nearly a million dollars to track him down. And amazingly they haven't requested or attempted to track down any Russians or Chinese that were in and continue to be in their systems. Because both Russia and China will laugh at them. As for his "hacking". He made a perl script that knocked on boxes looking for machines without a password. He relied more on the incompetence of end users on the American side than he did on any technical ability he might have. The claims of the damage he is alleged to have done are also nonsensical as he is alleged to have remained in their systems for a few years undetected. Someone doing that does not go around posting graffiti and making their presence known by deleting files and folders.

And it's not like the Americans are bad at security either. Just a few years ago there was news stories of idiotic British MPs leaving USB sticks on trains or having laptops with secure information nicked from their cars when data that sensitive shouldn't be removed from the unit it's stored in unless heavily encrypted.
 
Put him on a plane already!!!

I'm sorry, but if you hack Nasa and find photos of aliens AND DON'T even hit the print screen key, or grab any camera to photo the monitor then you deserve everything you get :D

on a serious note, it sounds like he does indeed have mental health issues but he broke the law at the end of the day
 
I think he will be gone and i agree that he should. The "Was on UK soil" when he comitted the crime surely cant stand. What if he had managed to access and overload a nuclear powerstation in the US killing millions? Would he then not face extradition because he was not physically there?
 
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