Yeh I linked to that earlier. At a point its going to put a lot of strain on her family, including her children who may well see her health get worse. Very selfish.
Would you leave your wife if she got fat?
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Yeh I linked to that earlier. At a point its going to put a lot of strain on her family, including her children who may well see her health get worse. Very selfish.
That women should be put into some kind of care tbh - we institutionalise people who try to commit suicide, somebody like that's clearly got a severe disorder or some kind or is at least mentally incompetent (& the carer would be responsible for gross negligence).
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I honestly dont get how someone can take it upon themselfs to let her get that way never mind feeding her :|
That's not "fat", he's quite well built I'd say. Google images of "powerlifter", would you call those guys fat to their faces?
. If he cut his calories down he'd probably find a 6 pack and well defined muscles underneath 
(are you listening kwerk?!). He almost certainly works out or has a physical job.As to the answer of the original post:
Absolutely I would dump her. Not instantly and not just for a bit of weight either (it can look good on some women), but I wouldn't put up with being in a relationship with someone I don't find attractive. Why should I compromise my happiness for someone else's laziness?
If she put on some excess weight I would be more than willing to help her lose it if everything else was otherwise fine in the relationship, but if she was completely unwilling and kept putting on more weight that would not only be a physical problem but also an attitude problem which is not compatible with my life. I would echo other peoples views on what it would do to our (hypothetical) children too, I wouldn't want such a bad example for them.
Also anyone who says "it's genetics" is just lazy. Fair enough it is can be easier or harder for some people, but it is not impossible for anyone (*very* rare medical cases excepted). Anyone can lose weight with enough will power, exercise and a good diet... no excuses. Control the calories in and calories out (exercise)... simple as that, it's not rocket science.
I'm one of those people who thought "I eat loads and never put on weight" but I actually worked it out and aside from the few days I had a takeaway I rarely used to hit the "average" 2500 for a man per day (usually <2000). Now I work out 3 times a week and watch what I eat and I'm actually struggling to INCREASE my calories at the moment, I need to eat more! Having 4 pints of whole milk a day and an excess of protein (including whey protein shakes etc) in addition to normal meals but have also increased the amount of fruit I eat and cut out some of the chocolate, crisps etc and don't miss it one bit!
. I thought I would miss all the Pizza's, Kebabs etc but I really don't and just have them very occasionally to satisfy any rare urges!
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My problem is that I have a metabolic rate of 1200 calories a day where the average man is around 2,200.
That also means that if I eat healthily I'm still going over my limit.
I made a months food sheet for the hospital dietician and she just looked at me as though I was lying but I told her about the metabolic tests I had done in the 90's.
Only last week the diabetic nurse looked at my spare tyre and said that no matter what diet I'm on I won't get rid of it
My problem is that I have a metabolic rate of 1200 calories a day where the average man is around 2,200.
That also means that if I eat healthily I'm still going over my limit.
I made a months food sheet for the hospital dietician and she just looked at me as though I was lying but I told her about the metabolic tests I had done in the 90's.
Only last week the diabetic nurse looked at my spare tyre and said that no matter what diet I'm on I won't get rid of it
So eat 1000-1100 calories a day then?
. That will get rid of it. If your metabolic rate is 1200 then that's what you "need" to survive a day without any weakness/dizziness etc so you shouldn't feel anything but a twinge of hunger eating slightly under. I must say I am sceptical of your 1200 figure, but assuming you are correct then what I said will work perfectly well and is exactly the same as someone who needs 2000 eating 1600-1800 calories.
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My problem is that I have a metabolic rate of 1200 calories a day where the average man is around 2,200.
That also means that if I eat healthily I'm still going over my limit.
I made a months food sheet for the hospital dietician and she just looked at me as though I was lying but I told her about the metabolic tests I had done in the 90's.
Only last week the diabetic nurse looked at my spare tyre and said that no matter what diet I'm on I won't get rid of it
Well, as I was getting at, that could be a problem in losing weight once you put it on, but doesn't actively lead to getting overweight itself.
As for metabolic rate, I'm mostly going to have to say, no. Metabolic rate is firstly, not static, secondly, changes if YOU change the way you eat and live and thirdly is EASILY changable. It's still an excuse.
Eat right, and you can lose weight, spare tyre, cortisol control, low metabolic rate, raise it. Put on muscle, don't just eat low calorie, eat the RIGHT calories, move around more, all these things will change your ability to shed weight. Generally speaking, metabolic rate testing is...... bogus.
You exercise, lift weights, gain muscle and eat enough protein you will, build muscle this consumes energy which raises your metabolic rate as your body burns energy building the muscle AND muscle eats energy throughout every minute of every day, increasing your long term metabolic rate.
You think a low metabolic rate is harming you, raise it.
Now one of the biggest problems(but its still an excuse to a degree) is people who can't do that AT ALL. I have trouble exercising as I now have problems in just about all my joints, "cardio" style work is almost impossible these days, and weight lifting gives me horrendous joint pain also...... I can still lose weight purely via diet, and you can raise your metabolic rate through a good diet. As with all long term weight loss its pretty difficult to stick to, I'm not claiming its easy, its very possible for most people, its possible for me and I haven't done what I needed to yet. When I can get "in the zone" and stick with a diet I lost over a stone a month without too much trouble. I let other problems get the best of me and stopped losing weight, I know I can do it again if I really want to and its purely an excuse but I keep waiting for other problems to get better before "going through it", which is daft, but that is one of the main problems with humans, we do stupid stuff we know we shouldn't..... its just how we are.
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Perhaps metabolic is the wrong word but that's what I always thought it was.
I was sent to Cambridge in the 90's to check what my natural calorie burning rate was and I was 1200, a lady I was with was 900 and another bloke was 4000.
I like how the poster above says 'Well eat 1100 calories then' but he can't realise how small that is especially when I've got to eat healthily.
The only time I lost my fat was when I was running 60 miles a week but when I went down to 30 miles a week I put 3 stone on.
Only last week I gave all my information to the diabetes nurses - what I eat, how much exercise I get and they actually said not to eat less than I eat now.
The only problem is that means my fat won't ever go.
I don't think I said at any point that fitness == weight. In fact, if you read my post you would see that I am saying that he probably doesn't (like plenty of overweight people in the gym) work that hard in the grand scheme of things. Thats nothing to do with fitness and weight, simply what different people consider "hard exercise". I would say that 80% of people I see out running are going at a slower pace than I would at a quick walk.
P.s. DM, you will never find a huge 25 stone bloke that is overweight (not 25 stone muscle) that has excellent cardio fitness.
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I realise exactly how small it is, and if what you're saying is true (1200 calories etc) then it is NOT too small an amount. You're an intelligent man, do the maths. 1200-1100 = 100 deficit = weight loss. There is simply no other way. Yes you will feel some hunger because you've become accustomed to more (size of stomach etc), but it will work and if your metabolic rate really is 1200 (again, I doubt it) then you will lose weight.
Personally I would ignore a test done 20 years ago and eat a more realistic amount like 1500-1600 and see how you go. Be STRICT with it though, or you won't see results - a few little snacks here and there and you're easily back over 2000. It's very very possible to have filling meals that are low enough in calories to do this (even at 1100 it would be) but it will require some effort... usually the only thing missing in most cases (hopefully not in yours?).
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Coincidentally, should be an interesting episode of Horizon on BBC 2 now about the science of getting fat
Will be full of excuses for fat people to blame thier weight on no doubt.
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Overweight patient is asked to record their daily dietary intake over 4 days.
Nutritionists records their intake as 2360 calories per day, inside the healthy limits.
On further questioning it turns out the patient ommited all snacks, soft drinks, take aways, and in fact was
Consuming 3500 carloies per day on average.
This is what happens, fact.
Nutritionists records their intake as 2360 calories per day, inside the healthy limits.
On further questioning it turns out the patient ommited all snacks, soft drinks, take aways, and in fact was
Consuming 3500 carloies per day on average.
This is what happens, fact.
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So eat 1000-1100 calories a day then?
LOL no, not what you need to not be dizzy/weak, your getting confused with basil metabolic rate, the energy required to carry out normal physiological functions,
And to sustain being overweight metabolic rate is increased, so the myth about obese people having a low rate has been known to be bs for a long time.
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No, what kind of question is that? But if she was turning out like moby dick then I'd have a word with her.
Nice bump
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When is Kwerk back?