Loose Women!.

UncleRuckus · 23 Oct 2012 at 18:52

Reza86 said:
I truly hope that most of the people who have posted here don't actually hold teh views they are expressing becuase if they do then I am truly appalled. It may not be the most high brow show on television but to single it out because it is a female based show is extremely sexist. The amount of ***** in TV that is aimed at men, Top Gear being a prime example but that never gets a thread all of its own where mainly men set about ripping the presenters apart in aspiteful, hurtful and sexist manner. All of you will ave sisters, mothers and partners, if I treated them in this manner you would rightly be angry. If you wouldn't like it doen to someone you care about then don't do it to others. I can abide a lot of things in the worls but, sexism, racism and homophobia are not some of them and this thread crossed that line.

You should be ashamed.

Lol! Don't you think you sound a little hypocritical defending a sexist television program like loose women which objectify men and openly targets them?

No1newts · 23 Oct 2012 at 19:36

Reza86 said:
For your infomration I am neither female nor gay, and if i was it would not give you the right to critisise me based upon those characteristics. You are clearly a small minded bigot who I dearly hope is unable to procreate so that the rest of us can be spared your offspring.

Dear me

Whilst god clearly endowed you with a large amount of the judgemental genes he clearly bypassed you for sarcasm, irony and common sense.

But keep it up, you'll be a fan favourite with an attitude like that

Reza86 · 23 Oct 2012 at 19:42

No1newts said:
Dear me

Whilst god clearly endowed you with a large amount of the judgemental genes he clearly bypassed you for sarcasm, irony and common sense.

But keep it up, you'll be a fan favourite with an attitude like that

No god din't endow me with anything, nature did.

Its about time people started to realise that comments like yours are not acceptable even in a joking manner. They do influence the thinking of others and breed an atmosphere of acceptance for ways of thinking which are not acceptable in our society. Try to think before you comment.

UncleRuckus · 23 Oct 2012 at 19:46

Reza86 said:
No god din't endow me with anything, nature did.

Its about time people started to realise that comments like yours are not acceptable even in a joking manner. They do influence the thinking of others and breed an atmosphere of acceptance for ways of thinking which are not acceptable in our society. Try to think before you comment.

You don't speak for society, you are spouting social marxism.

The problem actually lies with people who choose to be offended.

Reza86 · 23 Oct 2012 at 19:50

No it is not that I choose to be offended because no one has the right to not be offended, that is a myth of our modern society. We do all however have the right to not be harmed but the ignorance spouted by some of those around us. By saying that my argument or viewpoint is worth less than other peoples because I may be a women or gay is harmful to those groups. And don't try to use the term Social Marxism in such a manner that I had to wipe your sarcasm of my face. Marxism holds a lot of relevance in our current society. So much so that even some leading economists have found value in it.

twist3d0n3 · 23 Oct 2012 at 19:52

Reza86 said:
No god din't endow me with anything, nature did.

Its about time people started to realise that comments like yours are not acceptable even in a joking manner. They do influence the thinking of others and breed an atmosphere of acceptance for ways of thinking which are not acceptable in our society. Try to think before you comment.

you need to take whatever is in your arse, out.

Reza86 · 23 Oct 2012 at 19:59

Well clearly because if what happens to be in my arse is a **** then all I can expect is to be subject to homophobic hatred. Should I be a women though i guess I would just be a ****.

UncleRuckus · 23 Oct 2012 at 20:01

Reza86 said:
No it is not that I choose to be offended because no one has the right to not be offended, that is a myth of our modern society. We do all however have the right to not be harmed but the ignorance spouted by some of those around us. By saying that my argument or viewpoint is worth less than other peoples because I may be a women or gay is harmful to those groups. And don't try to use the term Social Marxism in such a manner that I had to wipe your sarcasm of my face. Marxism holds a lot of relevance in our current society. So much so that even some leading economists have found value in it.

It's not myth of modern society, I could choose to be very offended by loose women as a man, but I don't.

I know exactly what social marxism is and it's always the same type of people who use it. It's a disease of society which leads to authoritarianism.

So, why are you such a hypocrite that you will defend a sexist show like loose women? You should be joining in because you are offended by sexism.

Or is it just sexism targeted at women you find abhorrent?

Moothead2 · 23 Oct 2012 at 20:02

Reza86 - Troll of the year 2012

Reza86 · 23 Oct 2012 at 20:11

UncleRuckus said:
It's not myth of modern society, I could choose to be very offended by loose women as a man, but I don't.

I know exactly what social marxism is and it's always the same type of people who use it. It's a disease of society which leads to authoritarianism.

So, why are you such a hypocrite that you will defend a sexist show like loose women? You should be joining in because you are offended by sexism.

Or is it just sexism targeted at women you find abhorrent?

Marxism does not lead to authoritarianism, it just happens to be that the only widespread example of Communism led to this. But what happened in the USSR was only Communism in name not practice. Just because one to to the other it odes not mean it was the cause.

I find it somewhat strange that you could single out loose Women as a show sexist towards men and ignore the inherently patriarchal and chauvinist society we live in. I do not believe Loose women to be sexist towards men, a lot of men however find the show disquieting because it is a group of empowered women talking their minds. I do not necessarily agree or disagree with their viewpoints but they do have the right to express them as long as they do not cause harm to others.

No1newts · 23 Oct 2012 at 20:19

Reza86 said:
Marxism does not lead to authoritarianism, it just happens to be that the only widespread example of Communism led to this. But what happened in the USSR was only Communism in name not practice. Just because one to to the other it odes not mean it was the cause.

I find it somewhat strange that you could single out loose Women as a show sexist towards men and ignore the inherently patriarchal and chauvinist society we live in. I do not believe Loose women to be sexist towards men, a lot of men however find the show disquieting because it is a group of empowered women talking their minds. I do not necessarily agree or disagree with their viewpoints but they do have the right to express them as long as they do not cause harm to others.

So they can express man hating attitudes but others can't respond. Typical apologist, either that or typical troll.

UncleRuckus · 23 Oct 2012 at 20:30

Reza86 said:
Marxism does not lead to authoritarianism, it just happens to be that the only widespread example of Communism led to this. But what happened in the USSR was only Communism in name not practice. Just because one to to the other it odes not mean it was the cause.

Social Marxism's raison d'etre is to control people's thinking, actions and of course, instil fear. This sounds rather authoritarian to me.

Reza86 said:
I find it somewhat strange that you could single out loose Women as a show sexist towards men and ignore the inherently patriarchal and chauvinist society we live in. I do not believe Loose women to be sexist towards men, a lot of men however find the show disquieting because it is a group of empowered women talking their minds. I do not necessarily agree or disagree with their viewpoints but they do have the right to express them as long as they do not cause harm to others.

So let's turn this around :

I do not believe Top Gear to be sexist towards women, a lot of women however find the show disquieting because it is a group of empowered men talking their minds.

What do you think?

ColdAsIce · 24 Oct 2012 at 10:47

UncleRuckus said:
Social Marxism's raison d'etre is to control people's thinking, actions and of course, instil fear. This sounds rather authoritarian to me.

So let's turn this around :

I do not believe Top Gear to be sexist towards women, a lot of women however find the show disquieting because it is a group of empowered men talking their minds.

What do you think?

End of thread

Totally agree with the Social Marxism point also.

Porceliamone · 24 Oct 2012 at 11:00

Wow, this thread escalated quickly! Fantastic overreaction by Reza and some truly chucklesome responses. Made my morning.

JBod · 24 Oct 2012 at 11:17

Mumsnet TV!

robgmun · 24 Oct 2012 at 11:27

Reza86 reminds me of the kind of man that thinks spouting feminist view will somehow get his leg over more often. Either that or he needs to speak to Lucy_Bee for a certain change that he's denying himself.

realBabelfish · 24 Oct 2012 at 11:44

Hedge said:
Now you might think this should be in the TV section but I dont think its bad in GD..

Im stuck watching this crap with my Mother right now, and I swear to god I want to uppercut that Carol McGuiness woman.

They have just been ranting about Binge drinking women and this "Loose Woman" starts harping on with some stupid and contradictory statement.

The audience then all cheer and clap while Im sat mouth open, speechless.

Men would never get away with having a show as Sexist and opinionated as this. Fair play to them having their "debates" but my god its horrendous.

I understand Im not the target audience here but Jesus Christ man, this is dump!

Haha sorry for my poorly constructed rant

Agreed. its massively sexist. i remember seeing it where they were ****ging off fellas as they are all cheats etc then one of them said about cheating on her busband with a toyboy and the crowd all went mad clapping etc. hypocrites much?

WOMEN - you will never be taken seriously by some people when you watch this drivel and read Heat magazine! you are your own worst enemies!

G|mp said:
I've read they are currently in a court case due to wanting to change the name of the program to Angry Birds.

nice one!

MikeHunt79 · 24 Oct 2012 at 12:09

I've never really had the pleasure (?) of watching this, but if its as bad as you say then it would be interesting to see how many of com complaints they get.

realBabelfish · 24 Oct 2012 at 13:13

Reza86 said:
For your infomration I am neither female nor gay, and if i was it would not give you the right to critisise me based upon those characteristics. You are clearly a small minded bigot who I dearly hope is unable to procreate so that the rest of us can be spared your offspring.

calm down. go watch the show and see its 100x worse than top gear. it makes the daily mail look like blue peter.

realBabelfish · 24 Oct 2012 at 13:17

MikeHunt79 said:
I've never really had the pleasure (?) of watching this, but if its as bad as you say then it would be interesting to see how many of com complaints they get.

men generally dont bother with complaining about stuff like that. my wife even hates it saying its sexist.

just like the old diet coke advert. 3 women drooling over a topless man. i imagine if it was 3 men perving over scantily clad lady there would be be a fair few complaints.