Why?
Stop telling me the price excl VAT
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As a consumer, I only care about how much it's going to cost me. That's with VAT, delivery, and any other stupid surcharges.
As a business, they only care about how much money they'll actually get. They don't care what the tax man takes.
As the motor trade, they're subtly saying "Cash in hand mate, no receipt, no VAT, innit."
As a business, they only care about how much money they'll actually get. They don't care what the tax man takes.
As the motor trade, they're subtly saying "Cash in hand mate, no receipt, no VAT, innit."
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The price should include VAT as most people have to pay it.
It's pretty much the same in other European countries so the UK isn't doing anything out of the ordinary.
Standard VAT rates:
Austria 20%
Belgium 21%
Bulgaria 20%
Cyprus 20%
Czech Republic 20%
Denmark 20%
Estonia 20%
Finland 23%
France 19.6%
Germany 19%
Greece 23%
Hungary 27%
Ireland 23%
Italy 21%
Latvia 21%
Lithuania 21%
Luxembourg 15%
Malta 18%
Netherlands 21%
Poland 23%
Portugal 23%
Romania 24%
Slovakia 20%
Slovenia 20%
Spain 20%
Sweden 25%
Norway 25%
Switzerland 8%
Feel free to move to Switzerland, or a country outside of Europe with a lower VAT rate, if you don't like "the man" taking ~20% of "everything you own".
Yes, but you're wrong, what service companies?
VAT is only one of 1,000,000 taxes enforced in the UK. Hence the penis comment. It isn't the fact they have VAT it's the fact they tax everything they can, and then waste the money. The fact they combine income tax and VAT is incredible, and the fact they are raising the income tax too... Brilliant. The UK is great to live in until you work, then you're ****ed.
The government are seriously trying to pass a law that'll force the elderly to work volunteer or risk losing half their pension. Don't know how people can defend this country out of anything other than blind patriotism tbh.
No offence.
VAT is only one of 1,000,000 taxes enforced in the UK. Hence the penis comment. It isn't the fact they have VAT it's the fact they tax everything they can, and then waste the money.
The government are seriously trying to pass a law that'll force the elderly to work volunteer or risk losing half their pension. Don't know how people can defend this country out of anything other than blind patriotism tbh.
No offence.
No offence taken.
Your post I commented on was related to VAT not another 999,999 taxes.
If you don't like this country then feel free to move elsewhere.
No offence.
I wasn't commenting on the VAT alone though, it's everything. I will be moving when I have enough money to feel comfortable doing so, after paying out my rear end to keep Mr. Bloggs in the house he cannot be bothered to work for of course. Everyone I know and have met who left the UK have never looked back. I can't fathom what people see in this country besides it's culture, but even that is being ruined and drowned out by it's society and government.
My apologies for misunderstanding your comment.
Posting in a thread about VAT and stating "where the man takes 20% of everything you own" (which is the standard rate of VAT) led me to believe that it was just VAT you were referring to.
As others in the thread have stated, what I have said is correct, this is not difficult to work out.
What service companies are you talking about? Third time of asking.
No need to apologise. Country has it's ups and downs, only issues it has are taxes and chavs.
Of course VAT is means tested. If you're broke, you don't buy ****. If you have lots of money, you buy lots of **** and pay lots of VAT. Unless you're seriously proposing that scaling VAT % based on gross income is a sensible thing to do.
The other thing is the VAT rate has changed several times in the UK over the last years. This makes price listing of shops and services difficult and may make it seem that their prices are rising when they are staid but vat has changed. This is anger reason why US ax is not shown, if in the ollowing tax year sales tax rate changes it is much easier for businesses to deal with
Except that VAT is charged on essential items like clothing and poor people spend a greater % of their income, resulting in VAT being a regressive tax...
None in particular. I don't understand why you keep asking that irrelevant question.
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The ability to claim back VAT is related to your VAT registration status not whether you are offering services or goods
A VAT registered service provider is able to claim back the VAT on items purchased for the business in the same way that a VAT registered shop can. There is no distinction?
Because the fact you don't think service companies can recover VAT on goods and services purchased shows you don't understand the VAT system.
There are a few specific services which are exempt, this does not equate to "many", and two of them are hardly small enough to be bothered by being VAT exempt - insurance and the post office.
I'll quote you again:
This is fundamentally untrue, most services are VATable and ARE able to claim back VAT. Which makes your argument rubbish.
The most significant sectors which can't are education and charities, other than that it's not a major issue.