In your opinion do you think we are going to have a mild or cold winter?, pretty much every year so far starting mid 2000's i've had deep snow and 2010 was a damn cold one with a lot of it! 
I notice these guys predicting a severe winter
Will cooper
http://willcooperweather.weebly.com...range_forecast_winter_2012-13_full_report.pdf
Joe bastar*i ( Skip to 5min 30sec or so... brief prediction of a bad winter for the UK (cold wise) with 'a lot of white in the land of Green' (actually referring to Ireland at that point).
http://t1nyurl.com/8rnglvf ( replace 1 with i )
Met office predicting lower than average temps this winter
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/r/m/A3-plots-temps-NDJ.pdf
MVH long range
Usually when we get snow in nov it's been mild throughout yet it snowed in oct as far south as EA!. But this hasn't been the usual winters we've been used to.
October 27 2011
Today October 28th 2012
WOW!! that's a massive difference. So if it stays that way till our next cold spell if it comes from russia/siberia!, we will end up in a deep freeze, but things can change very quickly.
New Oct 28th

I notice these guys predicting a severe winter
Will cooper
http://willcooperweather.weebly.com...range_forecast_winter_2012-13_full_report.pdf
Joe bastar*i ( Skip to 5min 30sec or so... brief prediction of a bad winter for the UK (cold wise) with 'a lot of white in the land of Green' (actually referring to Ireland at that point).
http://t1nyurl.com/8rnglvf ( replace 1 with i )
Met office predicting lower than average temps this winter
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/r/m/A3-plots-temps-NDJ.pdf
MVH long range
"Just a quick one, but the overnight update of the EC 32 day model is interesting in terms of variability evident within this particular update. Without question the opening 7 to 10 days of November look to be particularly cyclonic, but towards mid-month and beyond a far more changeable pressure pattern is signaled with perhaps lower pressure to the south of the UK and higher pressure building to the north or north-west once again, which may signal potential cold snaps as the month progresses.
The updates of late have been lacking consistency which is always a concern, but I do have a lot of faith in this model after using it from a forecasting perspective for over a year now, it has often picked up on trends out to 3 or 4 weeks quite well and this update certainly gives the signal for quite a changeable month once again. What is certainly not evident is a month dominated by zonal conditions either.
Interesting, time will tell as ever...
M."

Usually when we get snow in nov it's been mild throughout yet it snowed in oct as far south as EA!. But this hasn't been the usual winters we've been used to.
October 27 2011

Today October 28th 2012

WOW!! that's a massive difference. So if it stays that way till our next cold spell if it comes from russia/siberia!, we will end up in a deep freeze, but things can change very quickly.
New Oct 28th
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