Are we losing this country?

[minister]

Rubbish. We have wealth and power vastly exceeding most countries. We have an infrastructure vastly exceeding most countries. We have almost everything vastly exceeding most countries. Average my arse. You need to learn more about the world. We're an "average country" in the same way that Jenson Button is an "average racing driver".

You Really believe that don't you that this country has wealth and power, our infrastructure is falling apart, this country is living on past wealth fumes.
We no longer build planes we no longer are the enginnering kings of the world, we no longer have the best universities of the world.

All we do is Watch x factor, and sell homes to each other.

 

[Angilion]

[..]Now I don’t see you commenting on the post about white chavs, that is a racist remark, and most of the population has be conditioned not to see it.
[..]

I've read the comment.

I've also read your hysterical yammering in response, your pathetic grasping at being a victim in order to gain power from it. There was no racism in the comment about chavs. You were spewing rubbish that was in no way connected to the original comment about chavs, so I did you a favour and ignored your drivel.

You're all out of favours now.

 

[Ahleckz]

You Really believe that don't you that this country has wealth and power, our infrastructure is falling apart, this country is living on past wealth fumes.
We no longer build planes we no longer are the enginnering kings of the world, we no longer have the best universities of the world.

All we do is Watch x factor, and sell homes to each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/world-ranking

Seriously, step outside your area and go and travel. Expand your mind. All of us, when we were kids, were close minded. Then we experienced a bit more and realised stuff. Go and do it, and stop spreading this awful message that you seem to have. It's wrong, immature and makes you look pretty silly.

 

[Castiel]

And I dislike my fellow Englanders going to a country to fight a war coming back mutilated, just so the population of that country can come to this country. And then for them to throw eggs at then and chant death too them while they do marchpasts.

Fellow Englanders? And I don't care what they are chanting, because this country stands for certain values and freedom of speech is one of them....that's why people fight, to protect those rights, not let the xenophobic small minded little Englanders say who should and should not say what...that makes us as bad as those we are defending against.

 

[Castiel]

All we do is Watch x factor, and sell homes to each other.

Do not judge others by your own standards.....

 

[Angilion]

You Really believe that don't you that this country has wealth and power, our infrastructure is falling apart, this country is living on past wealth fumes.

I really believe it because I have some knowledge of the world and the evidence I have from that knowledge supports it.

You believe the opposite because...why, exactly? Where is your evidence?

We no longer build planes we no longer are the enginnering kings of the world, we no longer have the best universities of the world.

All we do is Watch x factor, and sell homes to each other.

We no longer do mass scale production. We do world class engineering, research and education.

There are issues, but you are wildly exaggerating them, apparently because of the enormous depth and breadth of your ignorance.

 

[minister]

Sigh.

What's a constitutional country?

1066 and 1653 the instrument of Government can be said as constitutional, thus having constitutional country.

 

[Castiel]

1066 and 1653 the instrument of Government can be said as constitutional, thus having constitutional country.

And England's Government is?

 

[minister]

I've read the comment.

I've also read your hysterical yammering in response, your pathetic grasping at being a victim in order to gain power from it. There was no racism in the comment about chavs. You were spewing rubbish that was in no way connected to the original comment about chavs, so I did you a favour and ignored your drivel.

You're all out of favours now.

White chavs thats what said you identified color, thus being racist end off.

 

[minister]

And England's Government is?

Go look it up I have given you the dates.

 

[Ahleckz]

Bah, rewording.

Are you really arguing that England has its own government and that the acts written at your dates (which were never legally codified IIRC - though, my expertise lie in other areas of the law, not parliamentary/constitutional law of the Middle Ages) give credence to your believes?

 

[Superficial]

I don't feel that this is completely out of place - the nobel prize stats usually make me feel great about being British:

Don't forget to factor in population size to feel extra special!! - there's more now as this was for 2010:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11500373

We are second overall when it comes to producing nobel prize winners and second per capita.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country

Concrete evidence that we are a great country that produces greatness.

 

[minister]

Nationalism is the measles of man kind.



Yet it's mainly WHITE English people (Chavs) that don't want to work, keep popping up kids and then have the audacity to blame their failure on immigrants. People like you who have 0 ambition, no drive and are content with drinking and smoking all day 24/7 .

Whats that, its ok to say white Chav and thats not racist?

 

[Ahleckz]

Hello babes. Just having a nosey whilst having lunch and I'm delighted with some of the insights being provided by minister. He sees things from such a different perspective, wouldn't you agree? Almost childlike in many ways. It's adorable. I want to squeeze his cheeks and ruffle his hair

He's so 'whacky' and 'unique'. I especially ADORE how he recognises that Britain is ruled by un-codified memos written 1000 years ago.

I'm not as good at this as you are.

 

[Castiel]

Go look it up I have given you the dates.

I don't need to (and the dates you gave are wrong if you are referring to the Charter of Liberties and the Magna Carta)....a quick look at my posting history on the constitutional basis of the UK will illustrate that....I want you to explain why you think England is a constitutional country rather than a constituent country within a Soveriegn Constitutional State?

Paying close attention to several acts of Parliament around the 1707 and 1801 years maybe?

 

[minister]

I don't feel that this is completely out of place - the nobel prize stats usually make me feel great about being British:

Don't forget to factor in population size to feel extra special!! - there's more now as this was for 2010:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11500373

We are second overall when it comes to producing nobel prize winners and second per capita.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country

Concrete evidence that we are a great country that produces greatness.

In the last 12 years we produce 16 out of those a few were in the US, in the last 12 years the US produce 60.
Most of ours were produced during the empire I think something like 75 percent maybe more.

 

[minister]

I don't need to (and the dates you gave are wrong if you are referring to the Charter of Liberties and the Magna Carta)....a quick look at my posting history on the constitutional basis of the UK will illustrate that....I want you to explain why you think England is a constitutional country rather than a constituent country within a Soveriegn Constitutional State?

Paying close attention to several acts of Parliament around the 1707 and 1801 years maybe?

the instrument of government look that up.

 

[Superficial]

In the last 12 years we produce 16 out of those a few were in the US, in the last 12 years the US produce 60.
Most of ours were produced during the empire I think something like 75 percent maybe more.

the us has a population much larger than ours obviously. proportinally we'd be neck and neck

What the hell is your problem? Grow up.

 

[minister]

Nationalism is the measles of man kind.



Yet it's mainly WHITE English people (Chavs) that don't want to work, keep popping up kids and then have the audacity to blame their failure on immigrants. People like you who have 0 ambition, no drive and are content with drinking and smoking all day 24/7 while spewing racist crap that only people of your intellectual level give a toss about. Yes, let's close the doors for those foreign Doctors, chemical engineers and other skilled immigrants who come in to this country, they clearly want to come here for our benefits. £320 a month is too good. Did you know that some Polish doctors fly here on Sundays or some night shifts because English doctors refuse to do those hours as they feel it's beneath them? Maybe we should close all the hospitals and A&E, oh wait, we can't because people like you are getting drunk every day and might need some assistance, it's okay, the polish doctor won't hurt you but if I was him I would be happy to give you some cyanide.

I like to ask you is this not a racist statement?

 

[Ahleckz]

the instrument of government look that up.

What is your argument, exactly?

And can you please explain why Scotland, Wales & NI are "constitutional countries". You're making your case here, present your argument with facts (or at least explanation). Don't make us do your leg work, that isn't how discussion/debate works.

Purely out of interest, what's your background?