Are we losing this country?

d_brennen · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:14

Castiel said:
Go and visit some other countries around the world, particularly the developing ones and then make an opinion, because your rhetoric is pretty standard fare for those whose experience of other countries is limited to Wish You Were Here or watching Hawaii 5-O on the TV.

Quoted for truth

franco_22 · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:16

Viper² said:
I believe one of the issues in this country is that people care TOO much. Patriotism is good until it's borderline xenophobic, which I think is what a lot of "patriots" in the UK are. They still have the country's best interests at heart though, they're just wrong most of the time.

Nationalism is the measles of man kind.

minister said:
Because there are only a few, you always here about the scummy whites but really never hear about those that came from the gutters of this country to make something of themsleves.
What i'm talking about when do you close the doors? 100 million 200 million people living in the UK? because according to you closing the doors is racist.

Yet it's mainly WHITE English people (Chavs) that don't want to work, keep popping up kids and then have the audacity to blame their failure on immigrants. People like you who have 0 ambition, no drive and are content with drinking and smoking all day 24/7 while spewing racist crap that only people of your intellectual level give a toss about. Yes, let's close the doors for those foreign Doctors, chemical engineers and other skilled immigrants who come in to this country, they clearly want to come here for our benefits. £320 a month is too good. Did you know that some Polish doctors fly here on Sundays or some night shifts because English doctors refuse to do those hours as they feel it's beneath them? Maybe we should close all the hospitals and A&E, oh wait, we can't because people like you are getting drunk every day and might need some assistance, it's okay, the polish doctor won't hurt you but if I was him I would be happy to give you some cyanide.

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:18

Ahleckz said:
You said "we". This thread is about the UK.

England is Constitutional country and the UK is a Sovereign State.

[FnG]magnolia · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:25

minister is my favourite new poster. Can we keep him? Pretty please?

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:26

Castiel said:
Go and visit some other countries around the world, particularly the developing ones and then make an opinion, because your rhetoric is pretty standard fare for those whose experience of other countries is limited to Wish You Were Here or watching Hawaii 5-O on the TV.

You are playing on words.

Ahleckz · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:28

minister said:
England is Constitutional country and the UK is a Sovereign State.

Pardon? I'll let you reword that before I comment further.

Oh, Mags is 'ere. HI.

[FnG]magnolia · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:34

Hello babes. Just having a nosey whilst having lunch and I'm delighted with some of the insights being provided by minister. He sees things from such a different perspective, wouldn't you agree? Almost childlike in many ways. It's adorable. I want to squeeze his cheeks and ruffle his hair

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:34

franco_22 said:
Nationalism is the measles of man kind.

Yet it's mainly WHITE English people (Chavs) that don't want to work, keep popping up kids and then have the audacity to blame their failure on immigrants. People like you who have 0 ambition, no drive and are content with drinking and smoking all day 24/7 while spewing racist crap that only people of your intellectual level give a toss about. Yes, let's close the doors for those foreign Doctors, chemical engineers and other skilled immigrants who come in to this country, they clearly want to come here for our benefits. £320 a month is too good. Did you know that some Polish doctors fly here on Sundays or some night shifts because English doctors refuse to do those hours as they feel it's beneath them? Maybe we should close all the hospitals and A&E, oh wait, we can't because people like you are getting drunk every day and might need some assistance, it's okay, the polish doctor won't hurt you but if I was him I would be happy to give you some cyanide.

Well you clearly are racist, calling white english people chavs, the word chaves does not mean white english, you are racist against the English what about these http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...fits-buy-luxury-homes-restaurants-Africa.html

Makes me sick that people like you label chavs as whites, chavs come in all colours white black etc... there are plenty of polish chavs in the UK, i seen them all the time Drinking on street corners.

And regarding doctors did you know that they have the highest number of patients that die, and the government have been introducing new rules on foreign doctors.

Did you know that the average foreign nurse come to Britain and stays for a years before they leave to another country like the US and Canada

Did you know London has a Eastern European homeless problem.
Did you know there is a limit on the hours doctors work in this country, hence the problem now.

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:41

Ahleckz said:
Pardon? I'll let you reword that before I comment further.

Oh, Mags is 'ere. HI.

What would you call England and the UK then? just asking, because if they arent England is Constitutional country and the UK is a Sovereign State then what are they?
Oh hold on we are a unit state of Europe then.

Castiel · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:46

minister said:
What would you call England and the UK then? just asking, because if they arent England is Constitutional country and the UK is a Sovereign State then what are they?
Oh hold on we are a unit state of Europe then.

England is a constituent country within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which is a constitutional monarchy and a Soveriegn State....

A Unit State?.....what websites are you reading?

Ahleckz · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:53

minister said:
What would you call England and the UK then? just asking, because if they arent England is Constitutional country and the UK is a Sovereign State then what are they?
Oh hold on we are a unit state of Europe then.

Castiel said:
England is a constituent country within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which is a constitutional monarchy and a Soveriegn State....

What he said.

I don't even know how you'd argue that England is a "constitutional country".

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:55

Castiel said:
England is a constituent country within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which is a constitutional monarchy and a Soveriegn State....

A Unit State?.....what websites are you reading?

Thats what I said, but was waiting for his responce. A unit state refers to a unit of the united states of Europe.

Castiel · 2 Nov 2012 at 00:58

minister said:
Thats what I said, but was waiting for his responce. A unit state refers to a unit of the united states of Europe.

No, it wasn't what you said, that you think it is only illustrates that you clearly do not understand what you are talking about in the slightest.....

United States of Europe indeed.....

Bennie-Mac · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:02

minister said:
And regarding doctors did you know that they have the highest number of patients that die, and the government have been introducing new rules on foreign doctors.

Id like to think that doctors have the highest rate of patient death, if I go to the dentist for a filling I don't expect to die from complications arising during the procedure. Whereas popping off to the doctors for a bit of open heart surgery seems like it should be a tad more risky.

(also vote name change to MinisterOfCulture)

Angilion · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:05

minister said:
So your saying that immigrants are beter than the British? so we need to rely on them to help us out of this mess?

Some are and yes, we do. Take a look at the staff in a hospital some time. Or a football team, as you were replying to someone talking specifically about football.

If someone emigrates to work, they are usually very strongly motivated. You don't leave your home and travel 1000s of miles to make a new home and a new life in a land of strangers unless you're really serious about it.

The issue isn't immigration per se, it's the recent scale of it and resulting problems with inadequate integration. That's when immigration can become conquest. I'm not being hyperbolic with that word - some past conquests of England were in fact mostly immigration. Immigrants change themselves to fit their new home country. Conquerors change their new home country to fit themselves. Get enough people doing the latter and you can have a conquest without a single military battle.

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:05

Castiel said:
No, it wasn't what you said, that you think it is only illustrates that you clearly do not understand what you are talking about in the slightest.....

United States of Europe indeed.....

This is what he said

You said "we". This thread is about the UK.

This is what I said

England is Constitutional country and the UK is a Sovereign State.

I'm an English man and I refer to England, just like the Scot's when they refer to Scotland. I could have said there were 4 Constitutional countries but I refered to England.

minister · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:11

Angilion said:
Some are and yes, we do. Take a look at the staff in a hospital some time. Or a football team, as you were replying to someone talking specifically about football.

If someone emigrates to work, they are usually very strongly motivated. You don't leave your home and travel 1000s of miles to make a new home and a new life in a land of strangers unless you're really serious about it.

The issue isn't immigration per se, it's the recent scale of it and resulting problems with inadequate integration. That's when immigration can become conquest. I'm not being hyperbolic with that word - some past conquests of England were in fact mostly immigration. Immigrants change themselves to fit their new home country. Conquerors change their new home country to fit themselves. Get enough people doing the latter and you can have a conquest without a single military battle.

No we don't, the only reason they leave there home is for economic reasons, they don't want to stay in their own nations and being about change.

I remember watching Libya and those on the boats to Italy and one thing that caught my eye there were no women on the boats, there were just cowards leaving a country.
Now I don’t see you commenting on the post about white chavs, that is a racist remark, and most of the population has be conditioned not to see it.

And I dislike my fellow Englanders going to a country to fight a war coming back mutilated, just so the population of that country can come to this country. And then for them to throw eggs at then and chant death too them while they do marchpasts.

Angilion · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:13

minister said:
Just an example, we need to understand that we are no longer a nation that was ahead of all other nations, we have become an average nation now.

Rubbish. We have wealth and power vastly exceeding most countries. We have an infrastructure vastly exceeding most countries. We have almost everything vastly exceeding most countries. Average my arse. You need to learn more about the world. We're an "average country" in the same way that Jenson Button is an "average racing driver".

Castiel · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:15

minister said:
This is what he said

This is what I said

I'm an English man and I refer to England, just like the Scot's when they refer to Scotland. I could have said there were 4 Constitutional countries but I refered to England.

They are constituent...NOT constitutional.

Ahleckz · 2 Nov 2012 at 01:17

minister said:
This is what he said

This is what I said

I'm an English man and I refer to England, just like the Scot's when they refer to Scotland. I could have said there were 4 Constitutional countries but I refered to England.

Sigh.

What's a constitutional country?